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Is Ann Coulter a Bad Influence?

We conservatives sometimes criticize pop culture icons (such as rappers, rock stars and sports heroes) for setting a bad example. Here's how the argument goes:

"Sure, pop culture stars can dress and talk the way they do -- but if the average teenager does it -- he won't succeed or prosper in our society."

Generally, this is good advice. Having lots of tattoos, for example, may limit your future career opportunities (if the band thing falls through). Wearing band tee shirts to a job interview may also have a detrimental affect on your career prospects.

And lets be honest, most of us need a job of some sort. What are the odds of your making it to the pros as a basketball player? Like one in a million??? I'm still waiting for my band to be signed. I'm guessing that's one call that I will never receive ...

The bottom line is that the "gangster" or "alternative" lifestyle can actually hurt both young and underprivileged people because it sells them a false bill of goods. It makes it harder for them to raise themselves out of poverty, for example. Liberal elites and Hollywood movie stars who perpetuate this lifestyle are actually hurting people, so the theory goes.

Fair enough...

Now, I'd like to draw an analogy between these misguided "youts of America" who admire pop culture icons -- and young conservatives who posture themselves as the next controversial conservative star (yes, Ann Coulter is living that gansta lifestyle, in a sense).

Reality Check: Your odds of achieving the type of notoriety that Ann Coulter enjoys are only slightly less likely than your odds are of making it big as a rap star -- and following Coulter's example may yield you similarly negative results.

... But before I go any further, let me point out that heretofore, conservative criticism of Coulter has been based on the argument that, while she is good at rallying the base, her rhetoric actually hurts our movement when it comes to winning converts. My argument is a bit different.

Clearly, Ann has been very successful because she is controversial. Controversy sells. She knows this.

I've witnessed this phenomenon , myself. I've written articles for many publications -- the vast majority of which were educational (not opinion) -- and the vast majority of which were generally ignored. Nobody wants to talk about my Campaigns & Elections Magazine article on how candidates and campaign managers should handle losing a political election. While this article certainly addressed an important topic, it was not "sexy" or controversial. Thus, it was not widely commented on.

Yet, there have been a few occasions where I have gotten a lot of attention. ... When I criticized the Rolling Stones -- or Terrell Owens -- for example -- my musings were suddenly deemed "newsworthy" and were picked up by several media outlets.

Lesson learned: If you want attention, just be controversial. Had I taken this lesson to heart, I would have written a lot more salacious attack articles. In fact, based on this argument, if Ann Coulter reads this and responds by calling me a "girlie man" (as she apparently did to Rich Lowry), it would probably be good news for me...

Everybody in our society wants their 15 minutes of fame. That's the whole reason people go on reality TV shows -- and Jerry Springer. ...But there is a difference between merely being "famous" and being respected.

Each of us must ask ourselves if we want to be P.T. Barnum or Ronald Reagan. Or, to give it a pop culture flavor: do we want to be Paris Hilton or Reese Witherspoon? I would much rather be respected as a professional than merely be "famous." I guess I'm a "Reese."

But, as they say, "politics is Hollywood for ugly people," and I fear there are a growing number of young people out there paying attention. Because of the new media (which I am generally a fan of), young people now have the ability to post blogs before they have matured as writers and people.

This can be a dangerous proposition; we've already witnessed a trend of employers using postings (myspace, facebook, etc.) to research potential employees. Conservatives are not immune to this.

Now, I have no problem with being controversial. "Extremism in defense of liberty" is no vice -- but extremism for the sake of sensationalism, is.

Thanks to the hard work of many conservative leaders, there are a growing number of young conservatives who want to grow up to be the next Jonah Goldberg, Ann Coulter, or Laura Ingraham. This is a very good thing.

But with opportunity comes responsibility. Our celebrities -- even conservative pundits -- have a responsibility to be role models.
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Comment from:  ivysellers
Interesting thoughts, Matt. Coulter certainly soaks in the spotlight, enjoying every minute of criticism.

And what you said is true -- how often do we post stuff online "freely" because it's so easy, without considering the long-term consequences? I think in this day of new-age media, there will be a whole new way of researching political candidates, up-and-coming celebrities and even our own neighbors for that matter. And some controversial words hanging out there in cyberspace could definitely come back to bite at the most inconvenient of times.
Posted: 06/12/2006 04:14pm
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Comment from:  mlewis
Thank you, Ivy. And let me say that I admire Ann's intelligence.

While I love technology and celebrate the new media for all its virtues, I also think it is a very dangerous place (in more ways than one).

I guess I could have titled this, "don't try this at home..."
Posted: 06/12/2006 04:18pm
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Comment from:  pguild01
Apparently you don't know how to state your thoughts in a few words. Too bad. Your liberal tirade was boring.

Ann Coulter is great. Have you read her book "How to Talk to a Liberal....if you must"? Ann speaks and writes the truth, so deal with that.
Posted: 06/12/2006 05:09pm
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Comment from:  martywake
Ann Coulter is succesful because she fills a niche. She says what a great many of us are thinking, but don't dare say for practical reasons.

Ms. Coulter is a very good role model, for one reason above all else, she is right. She extensively researches her work, utilizes as much primary source as well as secondary source information, and always provides citations for these sources.

If liberals put as much academic though and energy into their work as Ms. Coulter does, then they probably wouldn't be liberal.
Posted: 06/12/2006 05:43pm
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Comment from:  captainkirk
I just wish people would respond to Ann Coulter's stated facts. If she is factually wrong in her statements, let us know where. I get tired of the attacks on her style.
It appears to me that she talks straight from her shoulder. Isn't that what people most people want?
If a 'rapper' speaks the truth, more power to them.
It seems that what you really don't like, is that she isn't nuanced enough, or that she doesn't couch what she means. Actually, it's quite refreshing!
Posted: 06/12/2006 05:49pm
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Comment from:  CSMom
I just love how the liberals get whiny and potty-mouthed as soon as they feel 'under attack', yet they are happy to dish out plenty of abuse to conservatives. Typical of an insecure bully.

I like marty's comment that if they really researched their claims before launching their attacks, they would probably not be liberal.

I sometimes cringe at Ms. Coulter's delivery, but I know her views are well-researched, and truthful. Get over it, liberals!
Posted: 06/12/2006 06:07pm
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Comment from:  Balena Terra
Sticks and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt me. This used to be a foundational understanding in our culture. Same as the phrase "mind your own business". But that was then, this is now.

My point is, if you want to be taken seriously by people who think, counter Ann's ideas and facts, not her delivery or style. (If you were a Boxer and your coach turned to you and gave you the insight that your opponent is a "meanie", what would you think?) In the end, it is the thinkers who must prevail. Otherwise these discussions will come to an end.

The Liberals are upset because they thought they had the market cornered on outrageousness in politics. Well, no more, we are close to being back in your face and maybe more. Ann is just the first shot across the bow. Just wait until socialism gives us producers more time on our hands than we need. Those will be wild times.

As far as I am concerned, the conservative movement has only to active politico's with a pair between their legs...Rumsfeld and Coulter.
Posted: 06/12/2006 07:18pm
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Comment from:  johntierno
I disagree with Coulter's defenders on the most recent contraversy. I think she does make substantative arguments most of the time, but her style and delivery turns me off. She is shrill. Using ad-hominem attacks on the 9/11 widows was over the line and undignified. I was attracted to the conservative movement because of the well-reasoned and common sense arguments. She showed poor taste and judgement. I expect this from liberals, not conservatives.
Posted: 06/12/2006 08:20pm
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Comment from:  mtbube
I love Ann and while she is almost always over the top, it is the equivalent of hitting a mule on the side of the head to get his attention. Here's all I have to say about her being a "bad influence". She's like Mae West. When she is good, she's very, very good, but when she is bad, she's better.
Posted: 06/12/2006 08:23pm
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Comment from:  mlewis
I am happy that this post has generated such a response!

In fact, this may be the most comments that I've seen posted since Right Angle started allowing posts.

As I was writing this, I realized that, literally Ann Coulter's face appeared three times on the page. In short, criticizing Ann Coulter on Human Events is sort of like booing Cal Ripken at Camden Yards...a dicey proposition.

I would like to make a few points, in response to the comments:

1. I agree that people like Ann Coulter because she says the things that other people think, but do not say. I felt the same way about Roseanne Barr. Enough said.

2. A few people have noted that I have not attacked Ann's facts, but her style. There have been plenty of others who have challenged her facts -- and there's room enough in the world for more than one article. This column was not meant to rebut Ann's positions (as a conservative, I agree with many of them), but to deal with her style. This was my intention. Frankly, I believe the most successful conservatives (like Ronald Reagan) have paid attention to style. I do not see this as "selling out," but rather, as being an effective representative of the conservative philosophy. But smart people disagree on this. In my estimation, Coulter is closer to Goldwater than to Reagan (in terms of style).

3. My main hypothesis is that we live in a world where it is easy for anyone to be a pundit. And the more controversial you are, the more attention you get (as is evidenced by this posting). It is funny how few people have chosen to comment on the real thrust of this column. To me, that is much more interesting than debating whether or not Ann Coulter is a good representative of the conservative movement.
Posted: 06/12/2006 08:28pm
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Comment from:  battleground51
We need the likes of Ann Coulter to keep the liberals riled up and off balance. Besides, the left-wingers have been bad mouthing conservatives for years and mostly getting away with it.

Ann throws it back in their faces plus a little more for good measure.

She's the female Rush Limbaugh only a lot better looking.
Posted: 06/12/2006 08:38pm
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Comment from:  jjuracek
Coulter is absolutely, dead center perfect. She simply strips away the degenerate hate of the politically correct spinmasters on the left. America needs conservative lawmakers who speak as honestly and forthrightly as Coulter. If you, or the rest of the left don't like it, move to SF where morality doesn't exist and everything is a lie.
Posted: 06/12/2006 09:22pm
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Comment from:  johntierno
Ann is not the female Rush Limbaugh! Rush is a class act, funny, witty and incisive. In 1990 I was sophmore in college and a liberal Democrat. Rush showed me the hippocracy of American liberalism through great humor and his incredible intellect. Ann is shrill and sensational in a negative way, and she does great harm to the conservative cause. Laura Ingraham is the female Rush, not Laura.
Posted: 06/12/2006 09:34pm
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Comment from:  Firefly
1. I find Ms. Coulter to be refreshing, in both style and substance - although the line between pointed wit and sarcasm is a very fine one - perceived shrewishness can cause viewers/listeners to tune out her message, no matter how brilliantly thought out.

2. On the other hand, I believe that if Ms. Coulter opted for a more low key "softer" (kinder gentler?) approach, she would not be the center of controversy that she is now and the message she is trying to get across would be diluted. I also think that she would be relegated to the lesser pantheons, since it naturally takes time for "pundits" to reach a level of celebrity wherein their opinions are sought based on either their "wisdom" or their notoriety.

3. In this great country of ours, there are MANY representatives of the conservative movement, with many different styles. As such, the message counts more than the messenger. If you want to involve and inform certain demographics, the messenger must speak their language i.e. what is important to them - Conservsatism is so much more than a one issue movement - thus, many different types of communicators and styles are needed - from the "2 x 4 to the back of the head" to the erudite.

4. Finally - I really do agree with the point that nobody should be immune from criticism.
Posted: 06/12/2006 09:49pm
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Comment from:  JaneSimmons
Ann is brilliant. I firmly believe that she planned this controversy to get people to read her book - not to just to sell books (she doesn't need the publicity or the money), but to get the facts into peoples brains. They will not find truth/facts in the media, but they will in her books. They will in other conservatives' books, too, but the fact is that only the "choir" reads most conservative authors' books. I think she hopes this controversy will entice the public-at-large (who are so misguided by the liberal politicians and media) to read and digest the facts in her book and expects that such will serve the greater purpose, i.e., decline of the liberal stranglehold on today's media and society at large. Personally, I think she is overly optimistic in this regard, but I firmly believe that is her motive.
Posted: 06/12/2006 10:36pm
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Comment from:  MT
I'm tired of people from both sides saying "I agree with her, but I wish she wouldn't be so inflamatory"...or something similar. We can all "wish" for a lot of things. I wish the MSM wasn't so biased and that my kids weren't so loud. So what? Ann wrote what she wrote, and even though she went further than others might have gone, her points are tremendous and she backs up the "name calling" with facts. Murtha, Kerry, Kennedy, Dean, Sheehan, Nick Berg's father, Durbin, Pelosi, etc... have said things equally or more horrible...and without any facts to back it up, unless you give a broad definition to the word "fact".

Ann is great. Let's stop wishing she had done something differently and enjoy, promote, support what she is doing to shine a spotlight on the liberal machinery. Let's face it, she'd be hung out to dry regardless of her descriptions of the widows. She deserves applause, not apologies.
Posted: 06/12/2006 11:38pm
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Comment from:  ConservNotRepub
Coulter is not controversial for the sake of being controversial. She could never be as successful as she is if she were. No, she means exactly what she says, and only seems shocked that we live in a world where things are so bass ackwards that the truth seems so outrageous. The fact is that those women are enjoying the fruits, as it were, of their husbands' deaths. They are (one must believe) not enjoying the deaths per se, but rather the opportunity that has arisen from the deaths. If these women were not leftists, one might be more inclined to ascribe higher motives to them, but anyone who knows anything about the left knows that in their world, everything serves crass, low, political ends. But even if the Jersey Girls are merely dupes, innocents being used by others for their own ends, those doing the using are doing so for the very reasons Coulter says. I applaud her for shining an unapologetic light on them.
Posted: 06/13/2006 12:05am
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Comment from:  coffee260
Listen, conservatives do not need to be lectured to by anyone proclaiming to have our best interest at heart. Isn’t that what liberals do?

What's even more condescending is to try and disguise finger pointing as a good old fashion lesson in-the lesser of two immoralists.

I am sick and tired of being told by conservative commentators that I do not know acceptable and unacceptable rhetoric when I hear it.

What?

Conservatives can’t tell when Ann Coulter says things over the top?

You conservative writers act like all young little conservatives are going to get out their little Coulter skirts and start applying for jobs using satirical essays and overheated rhetoric.

Give us more credit than that.

This is the same argument by conservative commentators every time Ann Coulter releases a new book.

I wonder why?

First you have someone in the MSM get the ball rolling by quoting from her book something even taken out of context sounds obnoxious and is hard to defend.

Then you get the Bill Oreilly’s of the populist mushy middle or the right posing the question:

Bill Oreilly: “Now Ann, don’t you think you loose credibility with your argument when you…bah…bah…bah.“

But what he really wants to say is:

Bill Oreilly: “Now Ann, don’t you think you should write more simple minded, easy to understand stuff for those who have no couth?”


We’ve all been there and heard that.

Then you have the whole media sphere left and right up in arms over something only the faint at heart takes offense too.

If I were a betting person, I would bet everyone tiptoeing through the Ann Coulter “may lay” wishes they would have written the exact same thing she wrote.

Or at least wishes they could.
Posted: 06/13/2006 03:25am
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Comment from:  susan
Is Ann Coulter a bad influence? Yes, when I want some peace, quiet, emotional honesty and non-frivolous writing. She can be smart and funny, but I'm tired of her narcissism, nastiness and refusal to address issues. (Witness her on TV when she often spends all her time simply laughing and mouthing condescending cliches.)
It's not the CONTENT (what she says) but the CONTEXT (how she says it) that I take issue with. She presents herself as someone who lives entirely in her head with the emotional development of a six-year old.
I would rather read National Review and the Wall Street Journal any day. (Both of which, by the way, do not print Coulter's writing.)
Posted: 06/13/2006 03:33am
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Comment from:  coffee260
Susan uses the words, peace, quiet, emotional, honesty, narcissism, nastiness, smart, funny, laughing, mouthing and condescending to portray the array of emotions Ann congers up-and with almost certainty hasn’t read Ms. Coulter’s book-has the chutzpa to pen this sentence. “She presents herself as someone who lives entirely in her head with the emotional development of a six-year old. “ Oh the irony…the irony. Talk about some “emotional honesty” and “someone living in their own head.”

Love her or hate her, she stirs emotions.
Posted: 06/13/2006 04:36am
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Comment from:  coffee260
ConservNotRepub! Is that you, Ann?

If so, was it hard penning that oh so "rational" explanation of why you write what you write?

I mean, Peggy Noonan couldn’t have done better.
Posted: 06/13/2006 04:48am
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Comment from:  mlewis
Wow! I woke up and checked this post and there are like 21 comments. Again, I applaud you. This is the kind of interactivity HEO needs. Glad to be the one to get the ball rolling!

Here are a few more thoughts to chew on ...

1. I agree that the "so-called" Jersey Girls (meaning specifically the four or five women who have made this a political thing), have hired PR agents, etc., and are seeking to use their victim status to push an agenda. I don't think there is any disput there. I also agree that Ann has raised the issue over whether or not we should automatically grant victims a "free pass" as an untouchable authority.

2. Some of you have praised Ann for using this controversy to "brilliantly" manipulate the media and intentionally creating this controversy. Fair enough. To a much lesser extent (to an obviously much smaller audience), don't you think this very post has had the same affect? I mean, you are talking about it... (I'm not saying I wrote this for attention. I'm using it to prove the initial thesis -- that controversy is rewarded with attention!).
Posted: 06/13/2006 07:08am
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Comment from:  mbredmond
You obviously have not seen all of Reese Witherspoon's movie.
Posted: 06/13/2006 07:49am
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Comment from:  mbredmond
Correction: You obviously have not seen all of Reese Witherspoon's movies...plural.
Posted: 06/13/2006 07:51am
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Comment from:  mlewis
...and you obviously have not seen Paris Hilton's new video.

What's wrong with Walk The Line?
Posted: 06/13/2006 08:22am
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Comment from:  martywake
Walk the Line does not a career make. The Legaly Blond movies are horrible and Cruel Intentions was no masterpiece either.

However, I would like to inform you that not every one is cut out for punditry hood. The most succesful are the ones whow combine facts with an engaging personality.

The Air America debacle is proof positive of that.
Posted: 06/13/2006 09:03am
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Comment from:  Outership
I find it hard to believe that this article was written by a conservative. Perhaps Ann Coulter said it best when she stated that you cannot be a wimp if you want to be a conservative in this country. The great thing about Ms. Coulter is that she speaks the absolute and complete truth. The truth might hurt, it might be hard to listen to, but it is pure gold.

When people say that they are angry with her 'style', they are basically saying that they themselves would rather agree with and appease the Left than tell them the whole truth. When Jesus Christ went up against the powerful leaders of his time, called them hypocrites, and then proceeded to explain to them why they are so, He was telling the whole and complete truth and not coddling them in the least. They needed to hear this, because their very souls, and the souls of all who followed them, were at stake. That's how important it is to not hide people from the whole truth, even if being called a hypocrite is too "sensationalistic".
Posted: 06/13/2006 09:48am
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Comment from:  Jim P
Amen Ann! I think what she said about the 'Jersey Girls' needed to be said and that is wasn't 'mean'. Read the definitions of harpie and witch and both apply (granted, a "liberal" would not agree). True, that is a personal interpretation, but the 'Jersey Girls' do come across as smug, condescending, self satisfied and seem to be enjoying their celebrity status. Consequently I found Ms. Coulter's remarks, from an analytical perspective, to be right on the mark.

I say, keep it up, Ann. She is just speaking 'truth to liberal power'.
Posted: 06/13/2006 10:53am
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Comment from:  johntierno
Because many of us choose not to defend Ann or her deliberately inflammatory style doesn't make us "soft" conservatives. The point here is that screaming the loudest or being patently offensive is not rational discourse! Though I agree in principle with Ann, she crossed the line from fair criticism to an outright ad-hominem diatribe. Ann's rehtoric has no place in the conservative movement. What has always set the movement apart is our thoughtful, common sense thinking. As far as I am concerned Ann is only concerned with selling books, not with advancing conservative ideas.
Posted: 06/13/2006 11:11am
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Comment from:  Denis
Ann is great. She pushes boundaries intellectually and her style is refreshingly combative. I wish the GOP was half as smart and half as aggressive. She makes liberals go ballistic. She's hitting nerves and pushing buttons. She's doing something right.

Keep up the good work Ann. I've got all your books. Bought Godless yesterday and I'm already halfway through it. Looking forward to your next book.
Posted: 06/13/2006 12:28pm
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Comment from:  Balena Terra
If you screw up on the job and your boss explains to you some truths about your actions in a profane way, it is not conservative thinking to focus on the delivery instead of the message.

Truth is truth. True conservatives do not take time out of their day to bother with chastizing someone on their own team because of the way they deliver truth. They have better things to do.

True conservatives may take time out of their day to defend someone on their own team who is attacked because of their style. But not attack the messanger of that truth.

Some of these posts are obviously not from the conservatives they make out to be.
Posted: 06/13/2006 12:47pm
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Comment from:  Balena Terra
In fact, sometime a little profanity is useful in demonstrating the seriousness of the situtuation. In other words, lets not go to the next level!!!

Ann, you go girl!
Posted: 06/13/2006 12:51pm
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Comment from:  Jim P
Ann Coulter is just the the kind of conservative that is needed. Gentlemanly, or in this case gentlewomanly, forbearance definitely has its place in our cause. That being said however, Ann Coulter serves a very useful purpose, that being- she throws the libs off balance and makes them yowl precisely because she pulls no punches while speaking the truth and exposing them. Her kind of frankness is needed, in my opinion. Conservatives practiced gentlemanly forbearance for decades and lost election after election. The libs are street fighters and using Marquis of Queensbury rules against people who bite, kick, gouge, rabbit punch and use every dirty trick to win does not lead to success. We need firebrands as well as calm reasoned debaters.
Posted: 06/13/2006 01:32pm
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Comment from:  mlewis
Richard Nixon said of his controversial VP Spiro Agnew, "If you own a dog, you don't have to bark."

Agnew said the things Nixon didn't want to say -- and Nixon was able (for a while) -- to stay above the fray.

I think a lot of people are making the point that different conservatives have a different calling. Ann serves her purpose... She barks so that others don't have to.

Posted: 06/13/2006 01:39pm
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Comment from:  johntierno
Jim P makes some great points. I agree and concede that Ann is a street fighter and that is what makes her so effective at driving liberals nuts. For many years conservatism has been a resistance movement. One of my college mentors once characterized it as intellectual guerrilla warfare.
Posted: 06/13/2006 02:25pm
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Comment from:  martinilaw
You're right, and Ann's right. You're right that you sound like a "girlie boy", and she's right about everything else.

Posted: 06/13/2006 02:46pm
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Comment from:  coffee260
mlewis, I think I know why you raised such ruckus in your article about Ann. I am speaking for myself and I have a feeling those who are ready to throw you to the liberals fell like I do in this matter.

We conservatives are sick and tired of being told we must tone it down or that our speech is somehow hate speech. It just seems like every time we open our mouth, justified or not, we have a howling pack of rabid liberals screaming at us all kind of unkind epilates.

Now that we have our own way of expressing ourselves and now that we have alternative information other than the old liberal doctrine to read the last thing we want is one of our own to start doing the same thing liberals have done for decades. They attack our authenticity and they scream us down.

Granted that isn’t what your article tried in any way to do, but you have to remember, we conservatives don’t often turn on the TV and actually hear someone saying things that we wish we could say. And as for Ann Coulter, we know what we are getting and we love it for the many reasons but the most emotional is this.

Ann Coulter may be a little un-orthodox at times and yes most of the people you hear clamoring about what she writes can seem intimidating, which is precisely the reason we love her style. We love when she disrupts the “Church of liberalism” at it roots and when she does we all feel like, “finally, someone is screaming from the roof tops precisely what I would scream, and it feel great.

You see, unlike liberals most of what conservatives read and write are based mostly in facts and mostly can be trusted when we read it and that is why when people say thing like, “by Ann using such harsh rhetoric, doesn’t it take away from her argument.” I say only if you are Charlie Brown’s parents from the peanuts cartoons who can’t make any sound that doesn’t sound like the noise a balloon makes if you stick your fist into it too hard.

Liberals don’t give a dam about civility, and the “tone’ used in an argument. All they care about is reveling in their own emotionalized hypersensitive world view and stomping out anything that interferes with that world view.

My next comment will address the slight hint of elite condescension that many may detect. Unintended I may add.

Posted: 06/13/2006 07:33pm
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Comment from:  stuck_in_nj
Comparing Ann's analysis of the liberal agenda to the sputtering gibberish put out by rappers is a real stretch. These four liberal women that she talked about in her book in no way represent the thousands of survivors of 9/11. These four are just the latest 'useful idiots' of the liberal movement and so deserve any criticism they get.

Also, there can be no greater achievement for a conservative writer/pundit then to have liberal elected representatives in a free democracy call for the outright ban of their book. Two elected liberal zombies in the bleak state of NJ have actually called for an outright ban on Ann's book! From the party that likes to call our president 'Hitler', this call for a ban sounds like something straight from Der Führer.
Posted: 06/13/2006 10:13pm
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Comment from:  johnsf
It seems to me like one of the key points that Mr. Lewis was trying to make isn’t being discussed. While he isn't disputing the effectiveness of Ms. Coulter's writing, he is rightly questioning whether or not it has a negative impact on some up and coming conservatives. He uses the comparisons of Reese Witherspoon and Paris Hilton to back this up.

However, I think there are a few critical differences between Coulter and Rappers. While their "lifestyles" are comparable, their audiences are far different. Most young conservatives develop the ability to think for themselves; that's the only way to avoid being overcome by the liberal Gulag that is the public school system. Most conservatives can pick out the message without taking the blame. The facebook and myspace accounts aren't necessarily an issue because we all know that most liberals don't care what sort of conservative we are, they discriminate against us all equally.

I think if Ann Coulter can get more young readers echoing her style, it can make a change and reach out to a younger generation. Because like it or not, sitting around idly risks losing them to the blue. 12 years of brainwashing will do that to anyone.
Posted: 06/14/2006 01:15am
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Comment from:  Balena Terra
Johnsf makes a great point. I will try to add to it. (or maybe just restate it in blue collar terms, since that is the extent of my capabilities)

Young people have an adversion to not being "included" or worse yet "considered a joke".

In the past, young people could play it safe from being in these "predicaments" if they just tow the liberal line. Why...because liberals do not hestiate to go to ridiculing and sarcasm in order to control the discusion and thought that young people are exposed too.

Ann has started the war on this tactic. In the future, with help from many little "Ann" followers, it will not be a "safe given" to go the liberal direction or even to stand around acting dumb when it is obviously time to speak up.

I personally have gotten to a point where I cannot stomach these silent types in my life. They make me ill and remind me of the German people who actually wacthed people being forced on trains at the back of a rifle butt, but went home with a clear conscience thinking "they are just being sent to a picnic summer camp in Poland". I have no use for these types.

Ok, I will calm down now, back to my Coffee, I love Coffee!!!!!


Posted: 06/14/2006 11:36am
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coffee260 -
You didn't read my comment carefully. If you had, you would not have accused me of saying Coulter conjures up all those emotions. That's not what I said. Please read my comment again.
And as far as whether or not I live in my head, you don't have a clue.
Perhaps you intake a little too much coffee?
Posted: 06/19/2006 03:55am
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