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Party of Death author Ramesh Ponnuru graciously weighs in with an important clarification:

I agree with George and Smith about the definitional question, and with Bethell and those two about the ethical question.

You quote a passage from Gina Kolata's story in the New York Times, which does indeed sound alarming for those of us who believe in the sanctity of human life: Yamanaka "completed the ultimate test to show that the resulting stem cells could become any type of mouse cell. He used them to create new mice."

The wording here is a little tricky. My understanding is that what Yamananka did was to inject his mouse iPS [induced pluripotent stem] cells into a mouse embryo to see if they would end up playing a role in the formation of all of the various organs of the developed mouse. That's how he demonstrated that his cells were pluripotent, and that's the sense in which he "used them to create new mice." But he didn't use them to create a new embryo. Again, he injected them into an existing embryo.


Which completely answers my #1 argument vs. Smith and my #2 argument vs. George. Thank you, Mr. Ponnuru!

And it also shows the pluripotent stem cells acting more like body parts than like an organism or organisms, which behavior is illuminating -- and somewhat reassuring to me, though I'd still very much like to hear more about why we're sure that the still-living, brain-inclusive parts of disaggregated embryos (or their induced pluripotent stem cell equivalents) can't be be distorted organisms, rather than body parts.

Here are the 2 comments and 0 trackbacks submitted by Human Events readers.
Comment from:  Eveningsun
Not to add to Elizabeth's worries, but in addition to the question of the moral status of the cells being used in this new process there's the question of where this new process might lead. It seems as if pretty much everyone here, except Elizabeth, is thinking, "Now that we can make pluripotent cells without killing human embryos, we can go ahead and develop cures without compromising our ethics." Some folks think those cures might not show up soon, if ever, but still, the research can proceed ethically.

But I'm not so sure that's what will happen. Maybe this new technique will prove a dead-end, but not before generating knowledge that will pave the way for widespread use of embryonic stem cells. Who knows? Yes, if you're pro-life, this new technique provides hope--but certainly not assurance. There's many a slip twixt the cup and the lip.
Posted: 11/26/2007 07:24pm
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Comment from:  zatavu
Party of death, indeed. Let us look at all the anti-life positions of the Left:

pro-abortion
pro-euthanasia
pro-homosexuality (for the Left, because it's non-reproductive; for me, because it's a matter of two adults being free to choose)
defense of anti-human versions of environmentalism, animal rights, etc.

I suspect that the only reason the Left is anti-death penalty is because the Right is for it. It would, after all, round out their anti-human, anti-life world view.
Posted: 01/19/2008 07:56am
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