Election 2012

Obama’s amateur hour

Obama's amateur hour

With little argument, Mitt Romney had a great evening Wednesday.

From his reference to the present Democratic economic plan as a “middle class squeeze” to his standard about a program “not being worth it if you have to borrow from China,” the Republican nominee emerged from the first presidential debate as if he were a Hall of Fame pitcher for his beloved Boston Red Sox.

By far, Romney’s best line—used more than once—was to dub the Obama administration’s overall policy of enhancing the role of government “trickle-down-government.” In so doing, he needled the president by turning around the standard Democratic putdown of GOP calls for across-the-board tax cuts as “trickle-down-economics.”

Proudly recalling how he worked with a Democratic-controlled legislature to pass his own health care plan, the former Massachusetts governor invoked John Kennedy’s famous call to “get the country moving again.” He even paraphrased the late Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s (D-N.Y.) admonition that “you are not entitled to the facts” by telling him that “you have your own house, you have your own plane, but you don’t have your own facts.”

In contrast, President Obama appeared defensive, off his game, and, at times, harsh. After a half-hour into the debate, Obama rambled and returned to well worn rhetorical lines: from references to “millionaires and billionaires” who are benefiting from the Bush tax cuts to insisting he has “reduced domestic discretionary spending to the lowest level since Eisenhower.”

Obama clearly failed in his attempt to come up with anything truly fresh and relied on now familiar-attacks on his opponent’s tax plan and energy policy. More than a few times, he appeared less the candidate-in-command than Romney, whose mastery of facts and knowledge of government programs was akin to that of Bill Clinton in his now-celebrated nomination speech for President Obama in Charlotte last month.

Romney also worked in some themes that are likely to resonate among conservatives who still have doubts about the nominee who was obviously the least conservative of the GOP candidates for nomination this year. He made a forceful case for the 10th Amendment and referred to the states as the “laboratories for policy,” underscored the importance of state and local control having the most impact on public education, and vowed that he would “build that pipeline”—a reference to the Keystone XL pipeline that the Obama administration has held up.

Overall, even those who admire Obama in the liberal media agree he had, at worst, an “off night tonight.” Those in his own party are clearly somewhat more worried than they were a few hours ago. And among conservatives, there is a budding sense that, hey, “tonight might be the first day of the rest of the Romney campaign.”

Health Care

Health care was a major section of the Denver debate in the second half.

Romney had a tough task, needing to acknowledge his universal health care plan in Massachusetts, while also criticizing the president’s 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was not inspired by Romney’s plan, but was developed by many of the same advisers who staffed the Romney effort.

Romney said the biggest problem with the president’s plan is that people cannot afford it.

Too many businesses that currently provide health care insurance for their workers are considering dropping that benefit because they cannot afford it, he said.

“The cost of health care is just prohibitive, and we gotta deal with cost,” he said.

“When you look at Obamacare, the Congressional Budget Office said it will cost $2,500 more than traditional insurance; so, it is adding to cost,” he said.

“In fact, when the president was running for office, he said that by this year, he would have brought down the cost of insurance for each family by $2,500,” the Republican nominee said.

Obama had a bad night.

The health care section was supposed to be where he should have been running up points. If he would have praised Romney’s Massachusetts health care law, he would not only have neutralized criticism of his own plan, he would have driven a wedge between the GOP standard bearer and his party rank-and-file anxious about the federal takeover of medical care.

Instead of running up points, Obama repeatedly missed opportunities. He told wandering family health care stories, presented disconnected facts and made mind-numbing data points.

–Neil W. McCabe

Energy & Environment

The first zinger of the night came from Romney, who criticized Obama for spending $90 billion on “green energy” like Solyndra, the failed solar panel company that was propped up with more than $500 million in a guaranteed government loan.

“You don’t pick winners and losers, you just pick losers,” Romney said.

Obama said he agreed with Romney that energy production needs a boost in the U.S., “but I also believe that we’ve got to look at the energy sources of the future, like wind and solar and biofuels, and make those investments.”

Obama did not say how he wanted to boost oil production or lower gas prices, but did say that oil companies, which pay some of the highest tax rates in the U.S. corporate world, should pay even more.

“Does anybody think that ExxonMobil needs some extra money, when they’re making money every time you go to the pump?” Obama asked.

Romney pointed out that in Obama’s four-year term, gas prices have doubled and electricity prices have increased.

“Middle income families are being crushed,” Romney said.

“Energy is critical. The president pointed out correctly that production of oil and gas are up … but not due to his policies, in spite of his policies,” Romney said.

Increased production is occurring on private property, but not on public lands that provide revenue to the Treasury. Obama has cut the number of permits to drill on public land in half — Romney said that if he is elected, he would double the number.

“And, by the way, I like coal,” Romney said. “I’m going to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal. People in the coal industry feel like it’s getting crushed by your policies. I want to get America and North America energy independent so we can create those jobs.”

–Audrey Hudson

Defense & National Security

Despite early speculation that the first presidential debate would veer into discussion of recent events in Libya and the Middle East, both candidates seemed content to keep to the set domestic policy topics Wednesday night.

But Romney, perhaps eager not to repeat his convention mistake of failing to mention the troops, was the only candidate to specifically discuss his support of the military, bringing up sequestration cuts to defense on two occasions.

“I do not believe in cutting our military. I believe in protecting the strength of our military,” Romney said as he discussed the role of government, calling U.S. forces “second to none.”

Near the end of the debate, Romney reiterated the roughly $1 trillion in cuts to defense that are slated to come on Obama’s watch, vowing to fight them if he was elected.

Obama tried to make up ground as the candidates’ face-off came to a close, reminding the audience that his presidency saw the death of Osama bin Laden and repeating his claim, disputed in some sectors, that the terrorist group al Qaeda has been significantly weakened.

But Obama never countered Romney’s assertion that he wouldn’t stop sequestration cuts, even though defense leaders and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have deplored them.

And, as the universal rules of debate make clear, silence is tantamount to concession. Romney won the point.

–Hope Hodge

Free Enterprise

There’s a severe contradiction in the philosophy Obama sought to express Wednesday night, which has ramifications for every part of the American business sector: the president felt it necessary to offer ritual praise for “free enterprise,” but in every practical application, he describes it as dangerous and untrustworthy. He saluted “opportunity” rhetorically, but his policies are based on the idea that only government can detect and manage opportunity. He likes to use the word “choice,” but accuses Romney of throwing Medicare beneficiaries to the wolves by offering them choices.

Obama can use the language of liberty for the odd rhetorical flourish, but Mitt Romney demonstrated that he understands what it means. Romney’s was a coherent vision of American energy and innovation unleashed against every national challenge, from job creation to education. Obama thinks an awful lot of things are just too important for free people to handle through voluntary cooperation … and he doesn’t like being reminded of Big Government’s awful track record at handling them. As Romney mused, it’s hard to think of an example of anything that has actually been made more efficient, and less expensive, through government control.

One of Obama’s big problems is that he was defending theories, while Romney was talking about principles … and Obama’s dismal record disproves his theories. Romney’s discussion of what could have been bought with the billions wasted on Solyndra and other green energy boondoggles — 50 years of the oil tax credits Obama complained about, or 2 million teachers — was devastating. Obama’s attempt to boast about increased oil and gas production was short-circuited when Romney pointed out that all of that development is happening in spite of Obama’s policies, on private land where Obama can’t shut it down. No one watching that debate could have the slightest doubt which candidate was serious about a high-energy, independent future … in every sense of both words.

–John Hayward

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  • JohnFeldman

    Another priceless liberal reaction to the debate –this one from the Daily Beast:
    Look: you know how much I love the guy, and you know how much of a high information viewer I am, and I can see the logic of some of Obama’s meandering, weak, professorial arguments. But this was a disaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach, and his effete, wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving Romney a second look.
    Obama looked tired, even bored; he kept looking down; he had no crisp statements of passion or argument; he wasn’t there. He was entirely defensive, which may have been the strategy. But it was the wrong strategy. At the wrong moment.
    The person with authority on that stage was Romney – offered it by one of the lamest moderators ever, and seized with relish. This was Romney the salesman. And my gut tells me he sold a few voters on a change tonight. It’s beyond depressing. But it’s true.

  • Basset_Hound

    I didn’t watch the debates. However I’m glad that someone is finally pushing our petulant little manchild into a corner.

  • JohnFeldman

    And from the Washington Post:
    The grimness of Barack Obama: There’s a fine line between
    sober/serious and grim/uninterested when it comes to the optics of these
    debates, and the incumbent was on the wrong side of it Wednesday night. Whether
    it was his habit of looking down for the majority of Romney’s answers or the
    pique he displayed when debate moderator Jim Lehrer interrupted him, Obama
    looked like he’d prefer to be somewhere else. Obama the glum is not the leader people want to vote for.
    Romney’s prepared competence…and more: If the main goal for
    Romney in this debate was to show he could stand on stage with the president and
    handle a wide-ranging discussion on economic policy, he did so with flying
    colors. Romney’s strength as a debater — as demonstrated during the GOP
    primaries — is his ability to recall massive amounts of information with little
    seeming effort and he did that time and again on Wednesday night. Romney didn’t
    just deliver a sort of hyper-competence, however. He was at times funny — his
    quip at the beginning of the debate about the president spending his
    wedding anniversary at a debate was a good one — and delivered plenty of
    quotable moments (“you pick the losers”, “you’re entitled to your own airplane
    and your own house”) that will be replayed again and again in the after-action
    analysis.

  • 2573366

    Immediately after the end of the debate, I switched to MSNBC to see how they’d spin it. (know thy enemy).
    First words I heard out of Maddow’s mouth….Jim Lehrer (one of their own) had been “decimated”, had “lost control”, there was “no doubt who had more airtime”, etc.
    Translation: Romney won…and he won BIG!

  • rdman_VietVet

    Debate #1
    Romney…. wicked, crippling left hook to the body
    Obama… blah, blah, blah rambling, cliches, platitudes, rhetoric.

    Debate #2 (if Obama can make it)
    Romney… right cross knockout to the left dumbo ear
    Obama… ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!

  • JohnFeldman

    NBC said it was the most substantive debate in modern
    tv history. And not because of what Obama said, either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Du-Bois/100001519028711 Victor Du Bois

    Was Jim coaching Obama here and there?

  • JohnFeldman

    The left is depressed! Some of the Marxist media is even closing off their comment page because the posts are 100% pro-Romney. Got to love it.

  • JohnFeldman

    James Carville on CNN looked like he was attending a funeral when he said Obama lost.

  • Steven Chavez

    Romney won the Frank Luntz focus group and that’s huge!

  • Michael T Lyster

    The donkey wandered off into the brush, bleeding from deep wounds.
    The elephant remained on the field. Minimally bruised. Victorious.

    I. Loved. This. Debate.

  • JohnFeldman

    btw Off topic, but where is our pro-Perry EMS friend from Texas?

  • extra salt

    Everyone who is complaining about what Romney didn’t say, what he let go is missing the point

    1 You can’t say everything because you will run out of time, you will sound petty, you will miss the chance to get your best points across and into the peoples memory/make an impression.

    2 Romney didn’t screw up once in any real way (he made a few less right choices, but no screw-ups)

    3 He never sounded nasty or bad in any way but he still got a few low blows in (Obamacare, sorry for calling it that)

    4 He got under Obamas skin with ease

    5 He looked like a better choice while making Obam look like cold left-over hashbrowns (you can re-warm them but they will never be as good as they were)

    6 He seemed smarter, faster, better informed, and much more confident that his policies would be better, he sold and Obama looked old.

    So I have no respect for all the knee-jerks out there who are wringng their hands about how he won but could have done better; the knock-out was the totality of the debate.

    Next up Biden who I would not underestimate because he can lie while looking honest and can strike while looking warm and likeable; yes he is prone to saying dumb things, but he is very good at getting in plausible lies in debates;

    Ryan could lose to him if he is any less prepared than Romney was.

  • extra salt

    I bet next time Obama will come loaded for bear and fight to a draw as far as skill goes, Romney can still win based on facts, but I doubt Obama is going to let himself get blindsided again.

    Romney needs to step up ads that work to firm up the ground he took tonight to solidify the impression he made, he needs to do more than just swing states, some cheap ads in maybe swing states could go a long way and maybe even get him some coattails,

    Then we could really overturn the 2006-2012 era, and yes the era we are in now started in 2006 with the democrat take-over, that was the last chance to tighten lending standards and the dems blocked it.

    Romney needs to throw the whole class of 2006 under the bus and blame Bush for not doing more to stop it.

  • extra salt

    you don’t have to listen to libs to know what they are going to say or do, trust me;

    As to MSNBC in particular the fact that you watched them is very un-green of you because given their ratings if a few less folks watched they could shut it down so think of the environmental footprint you are causing,

    Or as someone on NRO once said it is like when you are the last guy at the restaurant and the whole staff has to stay there with the lights on until you leave.

    Really all of us need to vote with our feet away from the MSM; besides funding the enemy they are not even informing you, they are lying to you, insulting you, and by watching them you empower them to do more of the same.

  • Brarenda

    Love your car analogy. Romney was in the drivers seat and Obama was in the child’s seat.

    I flipped channels and saw the MSM meltdown but I also saw the Luntz focus group and I was amazed at all the switchers. I immediately thought of your “I’M SWITCHING” and will link this comment to my FB. Now if only it would go national.

  • Ed_USA

    Very poor performance for Obama. He let Mitt win points that could easily have been shut down in a few sentences. Obama also repeatedly went way over time. His handlers were rumored to have been coaching him to be brief. It didn’t take. How in the hell could he have rambled on about details of Obamacare and only got to the fact that it’s the same plan as Romneycare once he was already into overtime?

  • BaptistRyan

    I don’t think Obummer has a chance of winning any of the upcoming debates. However, I thnk Romney must keep a posiitve message going throughout the process. He cannot be seen as the “jerk” even once because the MSM will exploit thast to Obummers benefit.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    And how could he still claim they are the same plan after Romney listed all the differences?

    Of course, I don’t really expect you to be able to answer that. You’ll just claim that Romney was irrelevant, and put him on your ignore list.

  • stephan67

    Obama played defense and Romney won the debate. The question is , will this result help Romney win in the battleground states?

  • 2shinyshoes

    Obama avoided getting pissy and acting his usual childish, stupid self. Wondering “where’s the Teleprompter”. Complete exposure of the unqualified, coddled by the Media Prez he has been for 4 years. Looking forward to the next debates, he’s exposing himself. At some point he’s going to get petty, that’s his MO. He’s not used to anyone “talking to him or correcting him” like Gov. Romney did. Remember, he’s very thin skinned.

  • 2shinyshoes

    Juan Williams isn’t credible, he’s partisan. Fox saved his bacon, yet he’s always on the defense for obama.

  • 2shinyshoes

    I believe I heard that 50-60 million voters were watching…..surely that will have some effect on these voters.

  • 2shinyshoes

    He’s much too arrogant for that. He like the facetime on TV.

  • Kauaicat

    After watching Ryan effortlessly eviscerate Christiane Amanpour and another lib bimbo on CNN a few years ago, I have no doubt he will do even better against Biden than Romney did against Obama. The Ryan-Biden debate might even get replayed on Comedy Central…

  • Ed_USA

    “And how could he still claim they are the same plan after Romney listed all the differences?”

    The listed differences were:
    1) Romneycare was state, not federal.
    2) Romneycare was bipartisan.

    The correct Obama answers would be:
    1) who cares?
    2) The MA dems did not make it their #1 priority to ensure that you didn’t get re-elected. The MA dems may even have been reasonably satisfied with their moderate Republican governor. What ever happened to that guy, anyway?

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    “Who cares” is the answer of an arrogant jerk who cares nothing about the opinions of his fellow Americans. No wonder you suggest it.

    And the Romney plan was inclusive, and also over a thousand pages shorter.

    There were other differences listed, but as you ignored most of mine, you also ignore those cause they don’t work for your party hack agenda.

  • Rick_Kalifornication

    I watched the debates on ABC with Diane Sawyer and George Stephanopoulus. I was SHOCKED that they weren’t spinning the debate, despite having a panel of 6 people around the desk with only ONE of them being a Republican. It reminded me of the makeup of The View, with one token Republican.

    Only one Dem strategist ended up supporting Obama. At best Diane and George tried to spin it as a draw, but even they had to grudgingly give props to Gov. Romneys performance.

    i agree Steven, Romney was in the drivers seat. Point by point by point.

    I also noticed how weak and ineffective Jim Lehrer was as a moderator. He kept allowing Romney and Obama to step over him. He also allowed Obama to speak an average of 3 minutes to Romneys average of 1.45 minutes. In many cases Obama spoke about 2 to 1 of Romneys. A strong moderator would have cut him off.

  • Rick_Kalifornication

    Funny how Matthews thought that Romney dominated the time. I used a stopwatch to keep track of time each candidate was allowed to talk. Obama outtalked Romney 3 to 1.5 on nearly every talking point.

    At no point did Obama EVER come in under time. Romney on the other hand often finished well under 2 minutes in his responses.

  • Rick_Kalifornication

    The only zinger I wanted Romney to employ but did not was Obama’s own words that if he couldn’t turn the economy around in four years, he didn’t deserve another term.

  • Ed_USA

    Perhaps you have a point, for a change. “Who cares”, while technically correct, has bad optics. The diplomatic response woud be:

    “Romneycare worked well for the people of MA. It’s within the powers of Congress to provide those same benefits to all Americans, so my administration helped them do that. We bent over backwards to get bipartisan support, but in the end the GOP chose party politics over helping the American people with one of the most serious problems of our era.”

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    It’s by no means one of the most serious problems of our era, nor is it a practical answer to the few that we have.

    The most serious problem of our era is people who think like you, and vote.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    BTW….I’ve always had a point, and so have many of your other opponents.

    Your thing is….if you can’t refute the point, or can’t distract from the point, then you claim we have no point and put us on your ignore list, like a little girl.

  • Ed_USA

    Romney made 4 points. I hit the first two. The others were:

    3) Unelected board choosing treatments.
    4) Survey about effect on hiring.

    #3 is just false. Obama explained why, and if you look at the fact checkers you’ll see that they agree with Obama.

    #4 is just political whining by small businesses that haven’t been providing their employees with benefits and soon will have to. I suspect that most voters wouldn’t put those people in charge of the country.

  • Ed_USA

    Health care costs are by far the largest fiscal problem facing the USA. Informed people know that. You evidently don’t.

  • JohnFeldman

    Apparently, Romney let ObaMao hang himself with his own rope.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    Awww BS. Informed people know it why? Because you claim it so from your delusional holy mountain?

    Try again, sweet cheeks.

    The largest fiscal problem we have is out of control government spending by career politicians who don’t know the value of a dollar because they’ve never worked a 9 to 5 job to earn one.

    And, dishonest as always……you said, “…one of the most serious problems of our era.” You said nothing about “fiscal” in your first statement which you now change.

  • Ed_USA

    My plan is just to wait it out until you get RSI from your childish hobby of voting down every post I make and voting up every one of your own. Oh well, I guess you need to bolster your self-esteem somehow.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    “#3 is just false”

    Sure it was, and that’s why your O’Savior stared at the floor instead of jumping right on it.

    And you can call it whining all you want. Truth is, we have indeed suffered (48 weeks was it?) unemployment of more than 8%, and your O’Savior failed to do anything about it.

    You call it whining while people are out of work and reduced to living on the system. How sensitive of you.

  • Ribbey

    Other cards can only talk, the victim card lets you walk! lol!

  • Ed_USA

    “Informed people know it why?”

    Informed people know it because they are informed. But I’ll take note that you’ve said that healthcare costs are not a serious problem. Remember folks, you heard it here first from Loathesome Dove. And it’s about as sensible as anything else he says. It’s best to just ignore him.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    I don’t need to bolster anything. I respect people who respect me while you can’t respect anyone…….especially anyone who dares to disagree with your self perceived greatness.

    And you’re gonna have a long tiring wait for whatever the “H” RSI is.

    Are you hittin’ the bottle tonight?

  • Ed_USA

    “for whatever the “H” RSI is”

    Informed people know that too.
    ergonomics ucla edu/RSI_treatment.html

  • Ed_USA

    “I respect people who respect me”

    Then your respect is misplaced. Anyone who respects you is an idiot.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    And of course they’re informed because they agree with you, right?

    And why do we call you arrogant and delusional.

    I do know why we call you a liar. For one example, I never said that healthcare costs are not a serious problem. I said they aren’t the most serious problem of our era.

    If you’re having trouble reading, just say so before people start to think you’re trying to twist my words again, and we just know you wouldn’t do anything like that, right?

    Yeah right…..LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    Coming from you, that’s a compliment, and it tells me that I’m doing my job well.

    A badge of honor ya might say.

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    moron

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    OK, informed people say it’s Relative Strength Index, so again…..thanks for the compliment.

    ;-D

  • TanongSak

    If Mitt does it one more time, Obama is toast.

  • extra salt

    I doubt that Biden will win; what I’m saying is that he could do quite well if he can keep the conversation away from facts and logic.

    Never underestimate what a bold liar can do in a debate; most people try to say there must be something to whatever lie it is that the liar is telling because strait out lying makes them so uncomfortable they would rather believe that both guys are just puffing and stretching a bit.

    I would say that Ryan has to come up with a device to signal to the crowd that Biden is lying and that he likes him the same way we all love that weak uncle who drinks or gambles and has to lie to cover it up and to keep up the front that it is just a harmless level of use and not addiction.

    Sorry Uncle weakness, but we also can’t let you have the keys nor loan you a grand for a sure bet, would you like coke?

    I thought Romney did a great job of exposing Obamas lies without getting jammed up calling him a liar. There is no place for name-calling in a debate because that would lower the level of the debate, but you have to clue in the crowd who may not know it is a lie.

  • wearyconservative1946

    I’ve been wondering the same thing.

  • wearyconservative1946

    I love the car analogy. I learned to drive on a stick shift and in fact, I again drove cars with a stick from 1980 thru 1992. I remember my biggest problem was learning coordinate the clutch and gas, so what I got was a lot of shuddering and jerking and sputtering and engine demise until I got the hang of it. LOL.

  • BostonMary

    NO TELEPROMPTER!

  • BostonMary

    Thank You for Mitt Romney, God.

    The Republic Will Survive.

  • AgTrotter

    If last night had been a boxing match, Romney would have won by KO within the first 15 minutes. The Man-Child showed the country that he is indeed a child masquerading as a man. His body language was that of a spoiled child that was being scolded all night. By the end, it was getting creepy how he kept looking down at his podium.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dana.bts.35 Dana Bts

    I got half way through the first sentence in that last section and knew i was reading John Hayward’s writing. He made most of the same points I was shouting at the TV last night. Obama isn’t even a “useful idiot” which seems to reflect his views about most American citizens. Obama is dangerous idiot who will usher in the final destructin of the greatest country in the world if given another four years.

    Obama doesn’t even possess enough strength of character to actually look at the person he was debating. Romney spent almost the entire time trying to look Obama right in the eye. Conversely, Obama barely glanced at Romney a handful of times throughout the entire debate. That is common when someone is lying their ass off. They find it hard to look an honest person in the eye.

    Obama has got to go so that American and Americans can rise again and restore the full measure of glory to this nation.

  • CraigRead

    Communists can’t debate. They don’t do well one on one. They need the power of Pravda, the state, of useless moronic minions to spread lies and propaganda. Their policies are indefensibly inane. Wasn’t this Communist clown a god 4 years ago ? How can a god lose a debate as badly as this loser lost this one ?

  • HomesickExWasillan

    Rick, I was glad to see that the candidates didn’t act like Lehrer was the “boss.” Yes, he was weak. How refreshing! This wasn’t about him.

  • BostonMary

    Thank God for Mitt Romney!

    The Republic will Survive. (Ben Franklin)

  • AgTrotter

    “How in the hell could he have rambled on”

    Since he didn’t have his beloved teleprompter, I would have thought that even an idiot like you could have figured out the reason for that.

  • HomesickExWasillan

    Was that, “Would you like coke,” or “a coke!” Just wondering. You can never be too sure with the weird uncles.

  • http://www.generalpatriot.com/ GeneralAl

    You can fool some people all the time, all the people some of the time, but you can never fool all the people all of the time time. Obama’s Tom Foolery came to an end last night!

  • CaptainAhab

    Not to worry, these liberal pundits will find a way to “resurrect” their “messiah” just prior to the election so that he will have the momentum going into election day.

  • Altosackbuteer

    Here’s how the Germans saw it:
    ***
    I was driving in to Germany this morning from Poland, and caught the top of the hour news roundup from Mitteldeutscherundfunk (MDR), and the MDR guy on site saw it this way:
    ***
    Øbama appeared “tired” (müde), and was at a built-in disadvantage in any event because the “Inhaber” (the incumbent) is always at a disadvantage in these events, so no one can blame Øbama for losing.
    ***
    Really? Ich hatte das nicht gewusst — “I didn’t know that.”
    ***
    Cry me a bleepin’ river already.

  • justsaynotosocialism

    Not a good loser are you, Ed? Your boy not only failed, he failed miserably. Obama is one and done, along with his socialist philosophy, and the country is better for it.

  • Altosackbuteer

    The Biden gaffe you referred to, which Ryan is SURE AS HELL gonna beat Bite-Me’s brains out with, was when Bite-Me said the Romney policies were to blame for the past 4 years of economic malaise.
    ***
    Bite-Me SHOULD have gone back TEN years, to work Goerge Herbert Hoover Bush Jr.’s policies into this.
    ***
    But as it is ANYONE with a THIMBLE’S FULL of brains can INSTANTLY see, how on earth could Romney’s policies have a damned this to do with the past FOUR years, seeing it was Øbama and not Romney who was the bleepin’ President??!

  • globalcrap

    Welcome to O Bogus-land of scheems, lies,false dreams,and all B S.

  • Altosackbuteer

    I like Juan Williams. I think he TRIES to be fair. And his presence at FOX shelters FOX from the lilberals’ accusation that FOX is a shill for the Right wing. FOX, fair and balanced? Damned right — they even let Juan Williams on! In a sense, that makes Williams Fox’s political beard.

  • CaptainAhab

    Frank Luntz is a propaganda sock puppet, how can anyone take what he says seriously?

  • Altosackbuteer

    Msybe Øbama’s time advantage was a GOOD thing. I mean, Øbama’s ALREADY boring as it is — giving him more time to show how EMPTY he is just makes that point all the more strongly.

  • Altosackbuteer

    Sometimes Less is More. If you’ve made a great point and took only 30 seconds to do it, if you then stretch it out to a minute, you’ve diluted the strength of your point.

  • Altosackbuteer

    You’ve been wrong about everything else all year long, why not be wrong about this too?

  • justsaynotosocialism

    Nothing worse than a poor loser.

  • globalcrap

    The picture above says it all,He looks like a brat in third grade who didn’t get his way ,and is ready to cry for his mooshell.

  • Altosackbuteer

    Mitteldeutscherundfunk in Germany said the same thing — Øbama looked “tired” (“müde”).

  • Altosackbuteer

    You must mean my old buddy ‘n pal Mr. EMpTy.

  • Altosackbuteer

    I’m given to understand that Bite-Me made another incredible gaffe which Ryan has ALREADY pounced on and will CERTAINLY savage Bite-Me with during their debate.
    ***
    Bite-Me said, we can’t elect Romney because his policies brought about the economic problems of the past 4 years.
    ***
    I don’t think I need to spell out how DUMB that was.

  • 32lain44

    This is what happens when fantasy meets reality. Obama had “nothing” to defend. His lap dog media and lying liberal surrogates weren’t there to run interference for him, and political correctness wasen’t part of the agenda. Acting and fantasy belong in Hollywood………Not Washington. Clearly an adult was in the room last night……….and I think we all know who that was.

  • Altosackbuteer

    You got a lot of UNlikes, but not from me, nosiree.
    ***
    You are absoultely CORRECT.
    ***
    And the lesson which Romney seems to have grasped but Øbama not, was this: Sometimes, Less is More. If you’ve made your point, and did it well, and only needed 60 seconds to do it, you dilute the strength of what you just said by stretching it out to 90 seconds unnecessarily.

  • Altosackbuteer

    I Liked this too. I only hope the Øbama people don’t see it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ECGPOIPXCYBNEDL5UYGYW2SHKE Jenna

    Finally, a President we can relate to. He looks as dejected and hopeless as we feel after four years of anemic economic recovery, failed domestic and foreign policies, a divisive class war and paralyzing partisan politics.

  • Altosackbuteer

    Which is why people are running AWAY in DROVES from Øbamacare.
    ***
    Basically, in the end, the reason Øgbamacare has been so unpopular is SIMPLE. Most Americans ALREADY had health care they were satisfied with. The LAST thing these people wanted was for the Government to nationalize it, and QUITE possibly ruin it. And they are NOT wrong in that, either.

  • Altosackbuteer

    MY question is, will last night’s success persuade Romney that his Mr. Nice Guy approach, his Mr. Casper the Friendly WHITE Ghost approach, his Mittens, Milquetoast approach is the way to keep on keepin’ on?

  • Altosackbuteer

    Bingo.
    ***
    As Bob Gamere, the one time Yankees broadcaster once said, of Andy Kosco’s home run hit into Yankee Stadium’s left-field bleachers (reached only once every 3 years or so), where the Con-Ed Kids sat: “Bingo, bango, bongo / He hit the ball into the Congo!”
    ***
    And so too would Romney if he would but use that line!

  • Altosackbuteer

    Which is what I’ve been saying for over a year. Like Yogi Berra’s deja vu all over again, 2012 is like 1980, all over again. It’s OVER for Øbama.

  • MichMike

    I find the left mouthpieces attacking Lehrer so consistent with their beliefs that black people always need extra help or extra consideration. It is because the left truly believes that blacks are inferior. They are such racists as this is always the case with the left.

  • Bill_in_NC

    Obama was actually pretty good at jabbing at Romney. Obama could even express platitudes and slogans well, and effortlessly moved the discussion away from logical reasoning and toward emotion. All of those successful tactics are meaningless, however, because Obama was wrong on so many things at the basic level. Like Clinton, though, he could make wrong sound right. Many will still follow him toward the cliff.

  • BostonMary

    No, Alto! The Germans really can’t believe the Incumbent is at a Disadvantage. Sounds like the German Spin Meisters are as bad as MSNBC’s Chris Matthews: All in the Tank for The Messiah.

    Our National Insanity has crossed an international line.

  • wodiej

    I muted obama when his lips were moving because I knew he was not saying anything worthwhile to listen to.

  • BostonMary

    Romney behaved like a real gentleman, as I knew he would. I would have gone for Obama’s jugular after all the vicious things OBogus has said about Mitt: Murder, Felon, Tax Cheat, Liar.

  • wodiej

    Romney did a great job. obama acted like a scared rabbit.

  • BostonMary

    After four years OBogus finally got his Comeuppance last night. How SWEET it was!

  • Brett72

    You could really see first hand why one person has been very successful throughout their life and why the other person has not.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HQP53SG5LBWXWLXJ5DJAQJMGDY lewis b

    It is easy to see why Romney WON, A REAL Business Man against a NON BOUINESS MAN , Acorn Community Organizer, Never ran a Hot Dog Stand , Romney FACTS vs LIES ! Odummer has always Lied and it is hard in Debate to Be sure What lie U Told Yesterday ?

  • BostonMary

    The real story is that OBogus is “tired” of the job. He’s lousy at it and he knows it. “The thrill is gone.” No more victories, no more accolades, no more swooning, no more Nobel Prizes.

    Mark Steyn said it perfectly:

    “Obama reminds me more of these occasional viceroys you find in dusty British colonies slumming it on the edge of the map, and giving the impression that they’re far too grand for the job. He is the first president who gives off the whiff that he’s just doing it until something more commensurate with his talents comes along. But what I think is at the heart of it is that he is all too typical of a kind of complacent, pampered and cosseted elite of no achievement.

    I’m a believer in elites, and I’m a believer in achievement. But the idea that a guy has a million bucks worth of education at Occidental, Columbia, Harvard Law, and he becomes a community organizer, he becomes a Constitutional scholar who doesn’t actually know or teach anything, he has this charmed life, he’s just wafted upwards until a combination of circumstances gives him the ultimate waft in 2008, and becomes President.

    And he’s someone who, to use an old Rumsfeld line, doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. He has this kind of invincible ignorance, so that when something happens, he goes off and he flies in to Cairo and gives his usual speech, and he thinks okay, that’s it, that’s the Muslim world taken care of. Next. And then when it all explodes and blows up in his face, he’s not even interested enough to try and find out what’s going on here. And I think it’s that perfect pampered, cosseted, invincible ignorance. And if you’ve ever been on an American college campus, and just tried to plant a new thought in this sort of indestructible faculty lounge group think, you’ll be very familiar with the way Obama approaches these things.”

  • Reagan_Smash

    It’s all because of his religious upbringing….I mean the evil cult as the left would call it.

    Mormons do not believe in speaking ill of your fellow man, unless need be. I have never seen Romney be anything but polite but truthful, courteous but sharp and to the point. Romney performed masterfully and was like a skilled surgeon with each question. Obama looked like he was trying to perform an open heart surgery with a spork and a chainsaw.

  • BostonMary

    Romney had a lot of good moments. Here’s one:

    “I’m concerned that the path we’re on has just not been successful. The president has a view very similar to the one he ran on four years ago, that a Bigger Government, Spending more, Taxing more, Regulating more — if you will, Trickle-Down Government — would work. It doesn’t.”

  • ELawrence

    Wow – Human Events could have assigned this article to the youngest, dumbest intern in their office, hand that Intern the Thesaurus and assign “Synonyms for Utter Failure”.

    It doesn’t take much skill to describe Obamama’s ‘performance’: Fiasco / Miscarriage / Flop / Debacle / Dud / Botch / Calamity / Failure / Misadventure / Walking Wounded / Shell-Shocked, etc. etc.
    The best liberal Spin would be ‘He faxed it in.’
    What a bomb, but Hey – at least he was able to catch up on some sleep while on stage.

  • Dustoff

    YOU’RE NOT KIDDING. (-:

  • Dustoff

    I think that’s what drove O-dumber and the dem’s nuts. Not once did Romney attack him, as they were so hoping.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ECGPOIPXCYBNEDL5UYGYW2SHKE Jenna

    An Obama supporter from Indianapolis – who is also a local news anchor – attempted to give President Obama a boost the morning-after his debate debacle. On the issue of the $716 billion Obamacare “steals” from Medicare, he claimed this money isn’t being taken away from Medicare, but rather is being taken away from the “evil” insurance companies.

    This is how people who have a duty to inform the people deceive them instead. It doesn’t matter how the issue is framed, the bottom line is there will be $716 billion less to spend on medical care for senior citizens so Sandra Fluke and other Ivy League lawyers can have access to free birth control pills and taxpayer-funded abortions, adult children can remain on their parents’ health insurance policies until they decide what they want to be when they grow up and people who choose not to be responsible won’t suffer the consequences of a pre-existing condition clause.

    Let’s review this one more time. Nothing in life is free and insurance companies don’t exist to provide us with free medical care. Someone has to pay for it. And that someone is healthcare consumers and American taxpayers.

  • BostonMary

    OBogus could barely look Mitt in the eye. Goodness ultimately triumphs over Evil.

  • Rick_Kalifornication

    Best synopsis was Johns in the last paragraph above on Free Enterprise.

    I couldn’t help but notice how many times Obama tried to talk like he was Conservative. Yet, his actions belie his words every time and Romney pounced on each one to devastating affect. He even got in a few good soundbites such as the 90 billion of subsidies versus big oils 2 billion.

  • Ed_USA

    I guess you didn’t look all the way back to my first post in this thread. It began with this sentence:

    “Very poor performance for Obama. ”

    Now maybe I could have stated that better by saying “Very poor performance BY Obama”, but other than that I don’t quite see what you’re getting at.

    There’s no question that Obama did a lousy job in that debate. The only question about it is whether that will erode his lead and hurt him in the election. It was definitely not good, but it wasn’t quite Mitt’s 47% comments, was it?

  • BostonMary

    Another Romney moment:

    The third area is Energy.
    Energy is critical, and the president pointed out correctly that production of
    oil and gas in the U.S. is up. But not due to his policies. In spite of his
    policies.

    Mr. President, all of
    the increase in natural gas and oil has happened on private land, not on
    government land. On government land, your administration has cut the number of
    permits and licenses in half.
    If I’m president, I’ll double them, and also get the oil from offshore and Alaska. And I’ll bring that pipeline in from
    Canada.

    And, by the way, I like
    coal. I’m going to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal. People in the
    coal industry feel like it’s getting crushed by your policies. I want to get
    America and North America energy independent so we can create those jobs.

  • Ed_USA

    “If you’re having trouble reading…”

    For you this is usually not a good idea, but in this case you should try taking your own advice. I described health care costs as

    ” one of the most serious problems of our era”

    which no informed and sane person would deny. You’ve misstated what I said in various ways and then tried to deny it. It’s because all you do is waste my time with this sort of dishonest, pointless, boorish nonsense that I generally ignore you. Time to get back to that wise policy.

  • GPZ550

    When I looked at President and Mrs. Obama leaving afte the debate, I suspected that she was going to tell him that even she was planning to vote for Romney. I love the spin from this morning that Romney was ” more practiced.. better rehearsed…”, and other such nonsense. Obama shut himself up in a Vegas resort to prepare for this debate, he dropped everything to do with being president to prepare for this debate, and even brought in another New England dead-fish; John Kerry, to stand in for Romney. It’s not like world events were getting in the way, either, Valerie Jerrett was in the Oval Office, holding down the block. We just happened to see the non-media-filtered, real Barack Obama. Anyone want four more years of it?

  • Ed_USA

    Agreed. Going over time is bad form. Obama should have worked much harder on keeping the things he said succinct and to the point.

  • Ed_USA

    It’s probably too late for it to do them any good. The next debate is a “town hall” and the last is on foreign policy.

  • BostonMary

    Mr. President you said you get a deduction for moving a plant overseas – you get a break for shipping jobs overseas. Look, I’ve been in business for 25 years. I have no idea what you’re talking about. Maybe you need to get a new accountant.

  • Ed_USA

    Obamacare is really for the 50 million people in the US who didn’t have satisfactory access to care. You may be right that the 250 million who do just don’t care all that much about those who are less fortunate.

    For me, however, the real issue is our out-of-control costs. We spend 50% to 100% more per capita for health care than any other OECD country, and that’s with 50 million people largely denied care.

    The most important thing we can do for the fiscal health of this country is to get our medical costs down to something around the OECD average. That would save us $300 billion PER YEAR, which would both erase our deficit and help the economy grow.

  • AgTrotter

    I can only imagine what kind of messages the Man-Child received on his voicemail.

    Jimmy Carter: Barry, thanks for taking me off of the bottom of the “worst” list.

    James Carville: Mr. Obama, please stop calling my house.

    Joe Biden: That was a big f%$^ing deal.

    Hillary Clinton: You do realize that you called at 3 o’clock in the morning?

    Bill Clinton: You might want to put some ice on that.

  • AgTrotter

    After Perry whimpered off into the primary sunset, Empty went back to his trailer home and hasn’t been heard from since.

  • CaptainAhab

    “Succinct and to the point” is impossible for someone who depends on a teleprompter every time he speaks. Without his crutch, he is handicapped.

  • ordman

    What did I see in the debate last night?

    I Watched Romney crush Obama!!!

    I saw Romney drive his points home!!!

    I heard the lamentation of the liberal progressives,
    as they ate their own after it was over!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregory.sherard Gregory Sherard

    You are so right. Obama lost this one.

    In case you do not remember, It always comes as a surprise, but incumbent presidents tend not to do very well in formal campaign debates. Gerald Ford stumbled against Jimmy Carter in 1976, Carter was pummeled by Ronald Reagan in 1980, Reagan fumbled in his first try in 1984, and so on.

    It seems preposterous to me to say that Mitt “won” it … how can you win a debate by abandoning or waffling on everything you said or claimed as your platform on the way in? Obama looked bored with this debate. He has to defend himselff against a yapping Chihuahua nipping his ankles. Romney looked like he had just had a great round of golf and wanted us all to know. It’s obvious
    he rehearsed this over and over again studied the questions and had all the answers? Romney interrupted and disregarded the moderator who couldn’t get him to stick to the topic or time limits. A rude and self centered man!!

    I was disappointed in my president. He didn’t mention the 47% or Romney saying if your sick without insurance, go to the ER (Obama did mention Romney’s comment to ask your parents for money.) But now in the light of day, I see that Mr. Obama might be right to let Mittens lie himself into corner he can’t excape. Pollitifact, Factcheck and other fact checkers are busy right now. Most voters have already made up their
    minds. It’s the independents who are mattering right now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/DrMWolf Michael Wolf

    I started that back with Not So Slick in the 90′s.

    I knew from the beginning that this venal, conniving criminal had nothing good in store for someone of my demographic and productivity.

    If it weren’t for Rush’s impersonation, I STILL wouldn’t know what Billy the Serial Liar’s voice sounds like.

  • BostonMary

    I loved Romney. (Alto, can you post that “heart” icon again?) Jim Lehrer said “We’re going to have to move on” after Obama had droned on and on and on. Romney didn’t let Jim Lehrer get away with it : ROMNEY: “No. I have to respond to that.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/DrMWolf Michael Wolf

    Good news for our side.

    However, one has to wonder at the thought process and foundational philosophical grounding of people who would “switch” based on a single debate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/DrMWolf Michael Wolf

    Looks like no Clown Show from the Idiot Left today.

    They must rightly recognize the severe being their vastly unaccomplished, cool black guy took last night.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregory.sherard Gregory Sherard

    It was sad. I must admit.

  • Rick_Kalifornication

    As if Juan’s presence stops the libs from thinking Fox isn’t fair and balanced. lol

    Have you READ the comments on here by the trolls, Alto? They will NEVER consider Fox to be a “real” news agency.

  • 32lain44

    Good guy. Nice guy. Just terribly missguided. But what would you expect with someone like Axelrod leading him? And then throw in someone like Rohm Emmanuel……………For Gods sake………..You’ve got a disaster…..a crises.

  • CaptainAhab

    I beg to differ. I’ve always been right about you being a dim bulb.

  • CaptainAhab

    If I’m wrong, what does it matter to someone like you who lives in Poland and doesn’t even vote?

    If Romney wins, we are still headed down the same path that Obama has us on. We’ll just slow down a bit. They are both believers in big government.

  • BostonMary

    And in response to Obogus’s charge that he doesn’t want to hire
    more teachers, Romney said:

    First, I love great schools. Massachusetts, our schools are ranked number one of all 50 states. And the key to great schools, great teachers. So I reject your idea that I don’t believe in great teachers or more teachers. Every school district, every state should make that decision on their own.

    The role of government? Look behind us. The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. The role of government is to promote and protect the principles of those documents.

    First, life and liberty. We have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. I do not believe in cutting our military. I believe in maintaining the strength of America’s military.

    Second, in that line that says we are endowed by our creator with our rights, I believe we must maintain our commitment to religious tolerance and freedom in this country. That statement also says that we are endowed by our creator with the right to pursue happiness as we choose. I interpret that as, one; making sure that those people who are less fortunate and can’t care for themselves are cared for — by one another.

    We’re a nation that believes that we’re all children of the same God and we care for those that have difficulties, those that are elderly and have problems and challenges, those that are disabled. We care for them. And we look for discovery and innovation, all these things desired out of the American heart to provide the pursuit of happiness for our citizens. But we also believe in maintaining for individuals the right to pursue their dreams and not to have the government substitute itself for the rights of free individuals.

    And what we’re seeing right now is, in my view, a trickle-down government approach, which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams. And it’s not working. And the proof of that is 23 million people out of work. The proof of that is 1 out of 6 people in poverty. The proof of that is we’ve gone from 32 million on food stamps to 47 million on food stamps. The proof of that is that 50 percent of college graduates this year can’t find work.

  • TheNightHawk

    The frustrating part here is that so many Obamanites are unfazed.
    Prior to the debate, I was asked by an “Ann Arborite” how Romney could overcome his poll deficit in the debate. Specifically after his so called gaffe in criticizing Obumbler for apologizing to Muslim terrorists.
    The fact that Rombey’s poll numbers jumped did little to dampen his PMSNBC fervor.

  • JayC777

    Damn, you are as dumb as a bag of hair.
    ” He has to defend himself against a yapping Chihuahua nipping his ankles.”
    Translation: Maobama had nothing of substance and couldn’t hang with the big dogs
    ” Romney looked like he had just had a great round of golf and wanted us all to know.”
    Translation: He looked way more presidential and in control of the facts but I just can’t bring myself to say that.
    ” Romney interrupted and disregarded the moderator who couldn’t get him to stick to the topic or time limits.”
    Translation: Romney was routinely interrupted by Lehrer, attempting to cover for the biggest failure to every occupy the White House, requiring Romney to have to be forceful in getting his point accross, but I have to lie about it because I’m a mindless buffoon.
    ” He didn’t mention the 47%”
    Because, as has already been noted, taking that route exposes the fact that 47% are not paying taxes, which the vast majority of Americans, including most of those 47%, are not on board with. Look who’s not paying their fair share.
    “It’s the independents who are mattering right now”
    Oh, look, newsflash. Where have you been? Independents have always been the deciding vote and the majority were in the Romney camp before the debates. Now, a Maobama reelection is nothing more than a pipe dream.
    ” Pollitifact, Factcheck and other fact checkers are busy right now.”
    Oh, the same people that declared a scientifically proven fake Birth Certificate to be real and have actually been wrong more times than right about the facts? Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
    Jay
    But, hey, if it makes you feel happy keep delu

  • Rick_Kalifornication

    Mary, those are all good quotes and I do not mean to downplay them. I’m speaking from the one quote that was not used and that was Obama saying he should be a one term President.

    It reminds me of a Hallmark card I’d love to see:

    Outside of card
    “When we were together, you said you’d die for me”

    Inside of card
    “Now that we’re no longer together, I think it’s time you kept your promise!”

  • Dunestone

    I didn’t get to watch the whole thing . . . did Obama actually turn into a snake before he slithered off stage or is that just a dirty Cimmerian rumor?

  • Rick_Kalifornication

    I also saw him nod his head multiple times as if in agreement to Romneys points. As if he were mentally saying “I can’t challenge that because it’s true!”

  • CaptainAhab

    I noticed that too, it sounded like he was trying to give the clueless one a clue every once in a while.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregory.sherard Gregory Sherard

    The Frank Luntz focus group? L.M.A.O.

  • BostonMary

    Michelle looked like she wanted to go home that night with Romney!

  • rdman_VietVet

    Wondering where all Romney’s abusive, half-a$$ supporters and RINOs are who referred to Mitt as a LIBERAL a few months ago… still holding their noses??

  • Altosackbuteer

    A fool like you always begs — in vain — to differ.
    ***
    I have a question for you. And it’s one I just can’t relate to. Having a GOOD brain as I do, tell me, Mentally Challenged One, how DOES it feel to go through life wanting to be smart, but never cutting it?
    ***
    You should see the old 1970 film Chaяley with Cliff Robertson and Claire Bloom. It’s all about YOU.
    ***
    “Chaяley” is based on the Science Fiction story “Flowers for Algernon.” Chaяley is a retard who always gets picked on, but a doctor (Claire Bloom) gives him an operation that makes him super smart. They wind up falling in love. But then one day, Charley discovers that the operation was only successful temporarily, and he’s reverting BACK TO BEING CHAЯLEY again.
    ***
    Dan Junior Quayle had YOU in mind when he said something to the effect, that it’s better to have a mind to waste than not to have one at all.
    ***
    See ya later — CHAЯLEY.

  • BostonMary

    Die? Nah. Romney is way more magnanimous than you or I. He’ll say, “Good Luck and Goodbye Mr. President” the same classy way George W acted when he and Laura left the White House.

    I’m thinking, “Good Riddance. Here’s your pension. You don’t deserve it but it’s worth it to be rid of you. Go back to Chicago. Go play your 18 holes every day. Do what Michelle wants so she doesn’t bring out those Divorce Papers again! Re-examine your Ideology. It’s evil. Why do you think America rejected your 2nd term? Because we don’t want a racist, anti-semitic, America-Hating, incompetent President anymore. Repent. God is good. He will forgive you.”

  • rdman_VietVet

    OMG… how could you say that??? LMAO!!!!

  • CaptainAhab

    You admire Quayle, don’t you. That sums up everything about you. You THINK you are Mr. Brainiac, but you are not.

    See you later, Mr. PotatoE Head.

  • Dustoff

    Jay.

    Have you hear Al Bore excuse why O-dumber made his mistakes

  • Dustoff

    But CNN & MSNBC is ….. right. (-:

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Jr-Vanchieri/100000630756130 Joseph Jr Vanchieri

    It is about what most of us knew. Obama does not think well on his feet and when he has no teleprompters. Obama wasn’t just having a bad debate. He was showing who he really is. He has trashed our economy. Alienated our Allies and then says we need to have less military and premptive capabilities. I think Obama is generally lazy. He is tired of getting kicked from all sides. The GOP drills him. The Liberals prop him up to a level he can’t achieve. His Muslim Brotherhood buds turned on him and the only friend he has right now overseas is Hugo Chavez a dictator. Obama isn’t just done. He is overdone.

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve.james.50702769 Steve James

    Obama’s continued use of the phraseology, everybody getting an equal chance, everybody paying their fair share, everybody playing by the same rules, is be lied by the fact that he clearly wants to decide who gets chances and who does not by having the government picking winners and losers, he wants the successful to pay more of their fair share than the less successful, and he most clearly wants the rules to be different for different classes of people and businesses. How else to explain his desire to keep Exxon-Mobil and other large oil companies from getting write offs that all other businesses get. He generally wants successful people and businesses to have a different set of rules than the less successful do and he has stated as much many times. He believes that it isn’t fair if successful people get treated the same as unsuccessful people. “Fairness” is a doublespeak term when used by Obama.

  • Dustoff

    He now claims the man he debated, wasn’t Romney??? More excuses.

  • MicahStone

    The bottom line: Romney showed up to do the job, while OBOZO simply expected his socialist media stooge to, as always, cover his A.

  • TexasEnforcer

    I’m sure the tingle in Chris Matthews’ leg is starting to fade.

  • TexasEnforcer

    Jimmy Hoffa, Jr: I got some cement shoes in Romney’s size.

  • BostonMary

    Because I’m anonymous here. Made me LMAO too!

  • Concerned4America

    The VP debate should be entertaining but history shows that they have little or no impact on the outcome of elections. I expect Obama to be primed and perhaps on the attack like a cornered animal in the next debate. It is do or die. The pundents (sp) say that the Democrats have counted the electoral college votes and are not concerned with the debates but except for the absentee ballots already cast and the 47% there are no sure votes.

  • Concerned4America

    These people on TV track everything like a baseball game. One report said that Obama got 5 more minutes of talk time so I don’t believe that Romney is the one who had a problem keeping within the limits.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregory.sherard Gregory Sherard

    Look. Romney won a debate. Its been so long since they had anything to celebrate. Let them have their fun.

    I remember how I felt when Kerry won that debate against Bush. “Oh he looked so President” they would say.

    Bush went on to win his second term.

  • Concerned4America

    To paraphrase one of the commentators on TV this was Romney unchained. The Romney machine needs to get is ads to match.

  • BostonMary

    “Obama doesn’t like being reminded of Big Government’s awful track record. Romney mused that it’s hard to think of an example of anything
    that has actually been made more efficient and less expensive through government control.”

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    I never misstated what you said, liar. It was you who misstated what I said when you quoted me as saying that health care costs are not a serious problem when in fact…..IN FACT……I was disagreeing with your original comment that they are the “most serious problem” of our era.

    There’s a difference in the two, and you’re just completely unable to be an honest person…..period.

    The only time of yours that I waste is the time you spend trying to lie, misquote, and deflect away from the point you cannot refute.

    Ignore me all you want. Looks bad on you, not me.

  • TanongSak

    Hey Alto, guten Tag! Eine Frage. Do the Germans have an expression for people who hold a public office, which expresses doubt or condescension? For example, you remember that while the DDR was still around, it was considered uncool in Germany to refer to it without expressing doubt about it, e.g., “die sogenannte DDR.” I usually express the same idea by scare quotes, the “president.” Is there a way of doing that in German? (Although I was brought up in a German environment, my vocabulary today remains very limited.)
    As for the Germans, they disappoint me. With a no-nonsense, hard-headed Chancellor like Merkel in office who is apparently, quite popular), I don’t know how they can continue to think Obama has any redeeming qualities. What do they have to gain?

  • JohnFeldman

    Empty? We want to hear from you. Please, tell us again how Romney will lose in the debates? Don’t worry, we won’t make fun.

  • TanongSak

    Really. If we don’t get Romney, I wish Merkel would come here and take over. It wouldn’t take her long to straighten things out.

  • JohnFeldman

    I want to thank Ed_USA for his comments.
    Don’t get me wrong Eddie, I never read your nonsense, and I do sincerely feel sorry for you.
    But without your comments, I’d have no use for that dislike arrow.

  • JayC777

    Yeah, it’s all out histerical mode from the left.
    Jay
    Looks like all the obamabots are a mile high.

  • BostonMary

    From The DrudgeReport:
    “Strong Debate by Romney puts Europe on edge” You think the Euros fear Romney will be Reagan II?

  • Altosackbuteer

    No, IDIOT, I DID NOT SAY I liked Quayle.
    ***
    In fact, IF YOU WEREN’T SO DAMNED STUPID — you MIGHT have been able to infer that, if I called Quayle “Junior,” as I did, it must mean, I DON’T like him
    ***
    And I didn’t and I don’t. The reason I mentioned him at all was because I was comparing him to someone else I don’t like, because he is an utter fool — YOU.
    ***
    Jesus — LEARN HOW TO READ.

  • Altosackbuteer

    Personally, I wish PUTIN would come and take over the USA. How I ADORE that man!

  • Ed_USA

    You are lying again. This

    www humanevents com/2012/10/03/first-presidential-debate-is-obama-amateur-hour/#comment-670624513

    is the post where I said described medical costs as “one of the most serious problems of our era.”

    In this post

    www humanevents com/2012/10/03/first-presidential-debate-is-obama-amateur-hour/#comment-670639289

    I said “Health care costs are by far the largest fiscal problem facing the USA”.

    Anyone can follow those links and see for themselves that you are lying. Nowhere did I say what you are claiming. Who do you think you are fooling with your BS?

  • BostonMary

    Whoa, Alto. See your doctor immediately if you feel a tingle go up your leg!

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    What on earth are you rambling about? I never said health care costs were not a serious problem. I said they were not “the most serious” problem of our “era”.

    What you say above is exactly what I told you, so why are you repeating it with this insane accusation that I lied?

    You hit your head on something?

  • Altosackbuteer

    Hmmm. A good question. I’m very good in German but not native-level. Let me think.
    ***
    They could say “angebliche” which means “alleged.” “Naarisch” is “foolish.” “Unfähig” means “incompetent.” “Hirnlos” is “brainless.” “Zweifelhaft” means “doubtful.”
    ***
    I suppose, if they wished to insult a leader, they could simply call him a “Führer,” which of course has become a VERY loaded word in German after 1945, with a startling new meaning it didn’t have in 1915.
    ***
    If they say, Romney is the “Leiter” of the Republican Party, which also means “leader,” it is much less perjorative than if they were to call him the FÜHRER of the Republican Party, which also means “leader.” Calling him the latter would be their way of expressing disdain, since that word has become a loaded one.
    ***
    I attended a garden party last June in Görlitz, and someone asked me about Øbama’s chances, and I replied, I thought he was dead meat, and they expressed surprise and disappointment. They look to Øbama because, to them, he represents social progress.
    ***
    Just the other day, I spoke with a Polish woman who lives in Germany, and she was back here visiting her mother, and she asked me about the election, and I told he I didn’t like Øbama, and she expressed great surprise, asking me if I were one of those DREADED Republicans. She’s all for him because she thinks public health is a universal right.

  • BostonMary

    I vote for using our “alleged president.” My impression of Europeans: They believe in Multiculturalism and Socialism. They are even more politically correct than American Liberals. And Capitalist America is the Great Satan to a lot of them – Surprise, they view us just like our Muslim Terrorist Enemies! Remember their awed reception of Obama when he declared, “I am a citizen of the world” back in ’08. At the very same time the US Networks were interviewing the German Rumsfelds denouncing W and his WMD, they said how ashamed they were of cousin Donald, the US Secretary of Defense. They must have missed the photos of the 70 year old Rumsfeld running in and out of the Pentagon carrying stretchers with the injured of the 9/11 attacks.

  • BostonMary

    And as far as we know, Jimmy Jr’s still resting under the goal post in Giants Stadium.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    You do need to go back to letting me comment while you shut your mouth, cause you’re friggin nuts.

  • TheNightHawk

    Don’t know if this is true. Sometimes the Germans I work with pull a fast one and give a fake translation.
    Sitzpinkler: One who sits down to piss. (an unmanly man)

  • eewell

    Mitt Romney looked like a school teacher who just gave a failing grade to a pupil because he was poorly prepared and all Obama could do was stutter and give dirty looks while Jim Lehrer played the role of principal.And the irony is Obama was looking for a bailout from jim Lehrer.

  • rdman_VietVet

    I was sympathizing with poor Mitt… geeezzzzz, can you imagine that… Moochelle asking Mitt, “Can I go home with you tonight??!!!! Good Grief!!!

  • TanongSak

    That I don’t know. Ask Alto, since he lives there; he probably has a better sense of how Europeans feel about it. All I do is read the foreign-language newspapers, and so far, I don’t have enough information to answer that one. As for me, I don’t think Romney will be Reagan II, simply because he’s just too fond of the opposition. Don’t get me wrong: I’ll be happy if he wins in November. And it will be a lot better than if Obama wins. But to attack the liberal worldview straight on, I don’t think he has it in him. What about you?

  • TanongSak

    Are you just kidding, or do you really mean it? I have no opinion about Putin one way or the other, simply because I don’t know him, and don’t believe much of anything I read in the mainstream media.

  • BostonMary

    Perfect for President Sissy-Pants. He’s a Sitz-Pinkler!

  • what

    And today 0bama is responding in Denver, speaking to a young crowd, with aid of his speech writer and teleprompter. It just wasnt fair last night, he wanted to wait til Romney was out of town. LOL.
    0bama is like a little kid, saying: ” just wait, I’ll get you tomorrow. Yea, tomorrow, when you’re not around, I’ll tell you what I was REALLY gonna say. Just wait.”
    PATHETIC!

  • what

    Oh right, like Romney was an imposter.
    Everyone by now should see how pathetic 0bama really is.
    Immature, pathetic Little Boy King!!!

  • what

    Yes, as a matter of fact I saw him slither away.

  • what

    I bet, Michelle gave him hell. She wants to keep AF-1 and all those vacations and parties. She might even smack him around a bit.

  • Altosackbuteer

    I’m not kidding at all.
    ***
    Now, having said that, I have no illusions. I know Putin is no Marcus Aurelius. He is guilty of many dastardly things. He is an astonishingly able man who rose through the ranks of a deadly, Darwinian organization, the KGB. He HAD to be tough and VERY able, to do that.
    ***
    But statesmen do not operate under the same principles of morality that private citizens do. They are required to weigh possibilities, and often, whatever they decide can be attacked as immoral.
    ***
    In the end, do such statesmen do the best they humanly can?
    ***
    I believe Putin does.

  • Altosackbuteer

    I never heard that one. I think I’d be afraid to ask my German friends too.

  • what

    He is a coward. He is debating Romney today, when Romney is long gone. Now 0bama is responding with his friendly speech writer and teleprompter. Without them he is nothing.

  • TanongSak

    You’re right. And last night, if anything, he seemed a bit too fond of Obama. If he is the person I hope he is, it must have taken an extraordinary amount of discipline and restraint to be nice. I could have done it, I suppose, provided that after the debate, there was a restroom nearby, where I could go and puke.
    That being said, I just read in one of the local rags that since the debate, a confident Romney is moving toward the center. If it’s true, it’s a BIG, BIG mistake. First of all, he doesn’t have to. Secondly, if he does, especially on social issues, he’s in danger of alienating much of his base, some of which already have a problem with his religion. Whoever is advising him to do that should be sent packing. He just hasn’t been marketed so far as a man of sufficiently firm conservative principles to allow himself any slack on the ideological spectrum. What do you think?

  • TanongSak

    LOL! Priceless. I’ll have to add that to my German vocabulary. Sitting down to piss is unforgiveable. After all, a man’s got to have some principles.

  • Altosackbuteer

    We’ll be happy to let him have all the nappy-poo time he wants after we toss him out of the White House.
    ***
    You know the saying — “Don’t go away mad; just go away.”

  • dianecamp2313

    Maher also noted Obama made many points–unfortunately they were all for Romney.

  • Burlington

    The narcissistic personality disorder has been revealed. The bubble has been popped. He will melt like the Wicked Witch in the Wizard of OZ!

  • extyrequeen

    he can’t help it….he’s a liberal and that is what liberal’s do. i like juan but he is what he is….

  • TanongSak

    Thanks for that clarification. Some of the adjectives you listed (“naarisch,” etc.) are ostensibly pejorative, whereas using scare quotes isn’t. But I don’t know whether doing that would have the same effect in German. As for “Führer,” I can’t imagine any German calling a public official that, unless they really mean to convey disdain.
    I read Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung online, because it seems to be held in high esteem among Germans. I also read Badische Zeitung, because I like Freiburg. I’ve often thought of going there to live. Being from California, I don’t think I’d want to live farther North, because the climate sucks. And in Freiburg, one is also close to Switzerland and France. Have you ever been to Freiburg? Actually you’ve got a nice arrangment; living in Poland, you can get to Germany easily. Where in Poland do you live?
    I suppose I can understand how Gemans view what we’d call “socialism,” because they’ve been pretty much brought up with it. Ever since Bismarck introduced social-welfare legislation in the 1870s, they’ve had it, which is almost as long as they’ve been a unified country. To them it must just be business as usual. What I don’t understand is how they can feel any loyalty toward ideological socialism, or somehow think that Obama-type government represents “social progress.” After all, a great many Gemans are Catholics, and also a great many are Protestants. How do they reconcile their religious traditions with their ideological orientation? Do you have any ideas on that?

  • TanongSak

    Yeah, I suppose “alleged president” works too. I don’t care so much about the birth-certificate issue, simply because the media will never allow it to become a real issue, and anyone who tries to make it one, gets marginalized. It’s sort of like lamenting the fact that the climate on Mars isn’t more hospitable. To me, Obama is just an upstart.

  • TanongSak

    I wish he would; but we know that’s not going to happen. It’s not politically a viable option. But even more important, I think he’s just narcissistic and arrogant enough to think he’ll prevail the second and third time around. I don’t think he has a clue as to why he lost this time. Do you? By the way, I like your name. In case you haven’t notice, “smash” is one of my favorite words. By itself, it would solve all our problems.

  • TanongSak

    Good observations. What’s especially remarkable is that Obama really does believe in the persona that’s been created and marketed for him. That’s what distinguishes him from really great and competent statesmen. The latter create a persona, which they cynically market for the masses. That’s how they can create and manipulate public opinion. But they don’t actually believe in it themselves. That’s how they keep their sanity. It’s a hard balancing act to play, but, as Machiavelli taught us long ago, it’s necessary to play it like a virtuoso. Politicians who don’t master it in due course go down, and they go down hard.

  • Patriot41

    Alto, I have lost all respect for anything you say from now on. Putin is as deadly as they come and cannot be trusted to protect his people, much less anyone else in this world. Look how he has cracked down on freedom in Russia and is on the verge of trying to rebuild the USSR. You had better hope he is not successful, or you are going to be under the thumb of an ugly Russian bear. Man, you have gone off your rocker.

  • TanongSak

    That’s a cogent, and valid, observation about statesmen. See my reply to CraigRead above. I take it you would agree. I don’t have enough experience with Europeans to know, but I suspect that when it comes to politics, they’re a lot more level-headed and cynical than Americans ever dare to be. They’re not so naive as to believe all the stuff one reads in Civics-101 textbooks, but if asked, they might say they do. Am I right? I know that southeast Asians, Thais in particular, are extremely cynical about politics. All they care about is what the regime in power is going to do for them. In the northeast, especially in the rural areas, before an election, politicans actually go from door to door handing out small amounts of money as bribes. “Vote for me, and there’s more of it for you.” That being said, there’s one loyalty which no one questions, and that is to the King.

  • Dustoff

    OMG… You are So bad.

  • Dustoff

    Yeah as Al Bore said. It was the flight. Yeah sure Al

  • BostonMary

    No, so far he’s never attacked the liberal worldview straight on. He would never have become Governor of Massachusetts if he had. He’s a Massachusetts Moderate (R) and (originally) Midwestern Nice. He’s not naturally combative/ pugnacious like, say, a New Yorker who relishes a fight (Think Guiliani, Spitzer, Dershowitz, Andrew McCarthy). But you are making a mistake if you think Mitt doesn’t have very deep conservative values. He was a Mormon Bishop here in MA for more than 20 years. The biggest influence on his life was his father, George Romney, whom he idolized: Both very conservative Mormons.

    Obama hasn’t played the Mormon card yet but he’s got no scruples and is a mean junkyard dog. When he needs to, he’ll play it.

  • justinwachin

    For the last three and a half years, President Obama has been able to look to his teleprompters for the answers. When the teleprompters fail, an adoring media is ready to pick up the slack.

    Last night the Bamster had to function without the help of teleprompters. Too many people watched the debates for the media to be able to come to his rescue. President Obama was left with the cold, hard reality that he is truly in over his head and that he is not the best qualified to lead our nation. In fact, thanks to his bumbles President Romney will have a much deeper hole to dig out of than what greeted Mr. Obama.

    Hopefully last night’s embarrassing spectacle will mark the beginning of the end of the failed Obama presidency,

  • TanongSak

    Thank you for telling me that. I’m happy to hear it. Of course, we both know that to get elected, one has sometimes to tell certain people what they want to hear. As long as he doesn’t believe what he’s saying himself, I have no problem with it. That, after all, is what politics is all about.
    You live in Massachusetts? With the liberal infestation there, how can you take it? I live in California, and I don’t know how I take it. I just try to ignore it and enjoy the climate.

  • ricoliv

    You are SO right! Juan Williams does absolutely nothing to assuage the trolls. In their hypocritical indictment of Fox News they “conveniently” overlook the unabashed bias of the alphabet news outlets. Have you noticed how “leftist” Williams has become in recent weeks? It’s as though he wants to raise his profile as Fox’s Resident Liberal, lest anyone accuse him of selling-out the DNC.

  • ricoliv

    Yeah, we’ve read this same post elsewhere. Thanks anyway.

  • ricoliv

    As the Brtis say, it’s early days yet. There is still time for Mitt and his surrogates to go into attack mode, although his performance last night was a stunner. Revealing Obama as the empty suit he is might have been a more effective weapon than a sympathy-engendering attack.

  • BostonMary

    I predict that Obama will come back in the next town-hall-style debate. Romney can then knock this Clown down and out in the third and final Foreign Policy Debate. O’s foreign policy failures are a target-rich environment, e.g. Fast and Furious, Illegal Immigration, National Security/Borders, Benghazi, Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Poland, China, Apology Tours, Appeasement, etc. Monday, October 22 will be critical – final fight day. Romney’s gotta fight tough. A TKO would win the Prize.

  • TanongSak

    When are they supposed to talk about “social” issues? Is that the second debate? I’m not sure that Obama can prevail on this one, unless Romney is satisfied with repeating the same old platitudes that people like to hear. Then he’ll be allowing Obama to dictate the rules of discourse. As far as foreign policy is concerned, I agree; Obama is dead in the water.

  • BostonMary

    In the Black neighborhoods of Chicago and Philadelphia, they call that street money, walking around money, get out the vote money. These ‘American’ voters come very cheap.

  • TanongSak

    I wasn’t aware of that. You mean prospective voters actually get a handout?

  • BostonMary

    Oh, it’s illegal but politicians do buy votes.

  • TanongSak

    Hey Alto, I’ve got another question. This is a bit theoretical, so bear with me. Take the German noun “der Name”; the genitive form according to the rules is “des Namens.” Now, if I want to create the compound noun which means “forgetfulness of the name,” would that be “Namensvergessenheit”? I don’t just mean to say that someone forgot someone else’s name. It’s more along the line of a philosophical disposition, as when Heidegger uses the term “Seinsvergessenheit” (“forgetfulness of Being”). (I don’t know whether you’re acquainted with Heidegger.) Let me know.

  • TanongSak

    Agreed. He needs to become a lean, mean, killing machine.

  • TanongSak

    Amazing. At least by American, Civics-101 textbook standards. In Asia, even if it’s illegal, who’s going to say or do anything? They’re all in on the take, so they’d be killing the golden goose. When I returned from Thailand some years ago, the moving company there gave me an itemized statement of its charges. Among them was an entry (verbatim): “Under-the-table payment, 1200 baht.” It was for a Buddha statue I wanted to take out of the country. Otherwise it would have required about 3 extra days of red tape, getting signed documents giving me permission, and so on.

  • BostonMary

    I just heard Obogus lying about Romney, “If you want to be president, you owe the American people the truth. Romney…” President Obogus is such a Fraud and he thinks he’s so smart that he has put one over on the American people. I resent him enormously. I’d like to punch that Sitzpinkler in the face.

    At work I’m acquainted with a Desktop Publishing Manager (a rare fellow conservative) who has inspected the birth certificate that O placed on the White House website. He’s got certifications in Adobe, Photoshop, etc. It’s his business and he categorically states that O’s birth certificate has been tampered with. It bothers the hell out of me that Obama is laughing at us, that he’s got away with this.

  • BostonMary

    It’s not widespread. Chicago and Philadelphia are notoriously corrupt Machine-Politics cities. Michelle Obama worked for the Daley Machine in Chicago. After Barack became a senator she got a $350K no-show job at the UChicago Medical Center. She was supposed to cut down on the poor’s (uninsureds) use of the Emergency Ward. She was supposed to steer the uninsured to lower cost clinics which are poorly staffed and open only a few hours each week. Ironic considering her husband’s Obamacare!

  • CaptainAhab

    Did Frank Luntz get a new lite bright machine for show and tell? LOL!

  • CaptainAhab

    LOL!! Can you read your own name?

    Mr. empty-Potatoesack-head-nothing-between-the-ears.

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Way to go, spudboy!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1644174244 Be Gracey

    And Barry was a law instructor??? Bet his classes were fun to go to! ZZZZZ!
    Jim Lehrer is a dodgy old pinko leftover, he cant even control is own bladder, let alone a debate!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1644174244 Be Gracey

    I wouldnt count on a Romney landslide, remember, the Dems have to get even for W stealing the 2000 election!

  • Altosackbuteer

    Putin is not for America. He is for Russia. Consequently, he will do many things which distress America. That’s not his problem.
    ***
    What freedom has he cracked down upon? Pussy Riot and their obscene demonstration on the altar of an important Russian Church? I only wish someone in the United States had done that to Robert Mapplethorpe!
    ***
    Putin is certainly no democrat in the Western sense. That doesn’t offend me.
    ***
    Putin is NOT trying to rebuild the USSR. The USSR was predicated on a messianic Communist ideology, which sought world domination. Those days are gone and Putin is NOT seeking world domination. What he IS seeking is Russia’s traditional interests — in protecting its heartland by establishing a system of buffer states.
    ***
    I have long yearned for some American version of Caesar / napoleon / Putin to rise and strangle American democracy and take over and rule by fiat, because I’ve lost all confidence in the ability of America to govern itself RESPONSIBLY.
    ***
    Exhibit A of my case: America elected Øbama Øsama “Mr. Community Organizer” with its eyes wide shut.
    ***
    I rest my case.

  • Altosackbuteer

    Democrats have been known to hang around homeless shelters and bribing homeless bums with packs of cigarettes.

  • Altosackbuteer

    If you like sunny, warm California, Germany’s not the place for you.
    ***
    I live in SW Poland, known in Polish as “Dolny Słąsk,” in German as “Niederschlesien,” and in English as Lower Silesia — there is an Upper Silesia as well. Lower Silesia meets Germany and the Czech Republic in what the Germans call the “Dreieckland.” I’m about 55 miles from Görlitz, 160 miles from downtown Berlin, and maybe 170 miles from Prague.
    ***
    As for reconciling religious beliefs with progressive politics, modern Christianity certainly offers ways to do that. Jesus was concerned for the poor, etc. The leftist Catholic Workers movement is just one case in point, of the marriage of Christianity and Socialism.

  • Altosackbuteer

    It all sounds good to me! I know very little about Heidegger.

  • BostonMary

    Wrong. A republic if you can keep it (Ben Franklin) and John Adams thinking Jefferson was still alive …

  • NovelDog

    Jim Lehrer tried to stop Mitt from debunking BHO’s lies by changing the subject, but Mitt would not allow it. That floored BHO. He thought each time he called Mitt a liar, or suggested he was wrong, the moderator would change the subject and Mitt would not, or could not, have a come back….it didn’t work…Mitt was too smart and determined for them. Now BHO is crying crocodile tears….that mean old Mitt Romney wouldn’t let me win….Moochellle!

  • NovelDog

    Next time Mitt needs to bring up Finland and China. Why did BHO send 79.1 % of the stimulus money to them? Who owned the companies? Does Buffet and Soros or BHO himself own stock in those companies. Who is going to pay back the money which was misused? Can he be prosecuted for misusing the money as a bribe?

  • Ribbey

    Wasn’t it glorious!?! I was proud of Romney!

    When other cards can only talk, the victim card lets you walk…is the liberal’s mantra.

  • Ribbey

    These are very good questions!!

  • http://twitter.com/Markzmann Wayne Marzon

    The problem is Obama can’t drive a stick shift car since he grow driving a camel while in Kenya….just like No Teleprompter No Obama. That sucks!!

  • Patriot41

    You apparently were not brought up in Poland when it was under either German or Russian domination. I suspect that those who were, would not find much to agree with your interpretation of the great Russian leader Putin.

    With your attitude toward democracy and America, I am glad you left this country. I would advise you to look into exactly what Putin has been doing over the years and you had best hope he never succeeds in doing what he intends to do. That is, if you are not truly a communist already, which I suspect that you are.

  • Sand Spur

    Are you StanW?

  • Sand Spur

    You are blowing your horn out of your ass. Keep believing it’s over jerk-off.

  • Sand Spur

    Lonesome Loser, how is it going? How is the jewelry business?

  • Sand Spur

    What type of health care is available in POLAND? What is your insurance like there?

  • Sand Spur

    What type of health care does Germany have Blow-Hard?

  • Sand Spur

    You are a DUMB-ASS! You are as delusional as reagan when the alzheimers was really kicking in.

  • Sand Spur

    Do you Goose-Step while in Germany?

  • Sand Spur

    Really, I prefer Stalin. Putin is a PUSSY compared to Old Joe Stalin.

  • Sand Spur

    Do you give him free BJs?

  • Sand Spur

    Hey Blow-Hard…stay in Poland and worship Putin..you will get what you deserve in time.

  • Altosackbuteer

    You are Flagged for obscenity

  • Altosackbuteer

    An excellent one. One which they’re quite happy with, and which they think is superior to America’s. I assure you, from having spoken to them, they look to Obama, who’s quite popular in Germany. They’re mistaken, but give me bewidered looks when I tell them why.

  • Altosackbuteer

    I’m pleasantly surprised by the high level of health care in Poland. I didn’t think it was nearly as good as it is. And the prices are AMAZINGLY low. Even without insurance, paying Polish prices here feels like paying insurance co-payments in the States.

  • Altosackbuteer

    You are Flagged for obscenity.

  • Sand Spur

    YOU ARE A BROWN-NOSING TATTLE-TALE. Grow up fat-boy.

  • Sand Spur

    So it is OK that you get cheap health care, but it is wrong for Americans to get the same kind of care? What a hypocrite you are.

  • Sand Spur

    You BEWILDER me also BLOW-HARD. Germany has universal health care but you do not want that for citizens of the UNITED STATES. PLEASE stay in POLAND and never haul your fat-butt back here.

  • Sand Spur

    Really. BJ is obscenity and Moos-Slum is not? Do you bottle and sniff your own methane?

  • Sand Spur

    Go ahead and flag me. I bet you were the class tattle-tale in school. How often did you get beat up? You are a SACK of hot methane that leaks from your posterior.
    Shove that horn up your blow pipe and and squeeze your buttocks real hard ALTO.

  • Sand Spur

    I heard that you have been known to hang around elementary schools with candy.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    I’m sorry, but I talk to so many regressive leftist cowards here that I don’t remember which one you are.

  • Sand Spur

    You have no German friends. I know Germans very well and they hate BROWN-NOSERS like you. Too bad you were not in Poland in 1939, we would not have to put up with your asinine comments now.

  • Sand Spur

    I am the one who has studied all your comments and I know you have a Native American jewelry business and a son and I was just asking how business is going.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    Sure you are.
    You just waste your valuable time studying all my comments because I’m so important to you that you feel the need to take time out of your life just for me.

    Why can none of you cowards ever face me with the name you used when I spanked you?

  • Sand Spur

    Are you dating anyone. Man it has to be hard losing your wife.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    I’ll tell you what I told your sister the sgugaFaggot.

    NO!! I will not go out with you.

    queer

  • Sand Spur

    Lets see who the coward really is: Give me your real name and the state you live in and I promise you we will meet FACE TO FACE. How about it…COWARD?

  • Sand Spur

    From your comments, your wife’s death was difficult. What happened?

  • Altosackbuteer

    First of all, IDIOT, I didn’t say a damned thing about health care. YOU brought it up. And you don’t even know whether I favor it or not.
    ***
    But, since you seemed to have exceeded your normal daily dose of stupid pills today, I will be merciful and condescending, and tell you what I think of health care.
    ***
    There are certain things that government doesn’t get to bestow as a matter of privilege, but instead exists to guarantee our natural right to have. That includes things like free speech, the right to bear arms, etc.
    ***
    Health care is NOT one of these things. Public health care is NOT a matter of intrinsic right. It’s something the public MAY have, if they desire it.
    ***
    I therefore do not oppose public health care as a matter of principle. If the people want it, they SHOULD have it.
    ***
    But in turn, the people need to be realistic and honest. They need to understand that no health system can give away unlimited free services to everybody. It’s true in Europe, and true in the United States.
    ***
    The problem with Øbamacare is NOT a matter of principle. It’s a matter of practical feasibility. It appears to me to be a disaster.
    ***
    In the end, this is why Øbamacare is so unpopular: Most Americans are ALREADY HAPPY with their health care. They fear — and RIGHTLY SO — that a Federal takeover can only take a good thing and bleep it up. And indeed, already insurance premia have skyrocketed.
    ***
    I used to think that Romney was the worst candidate the Republicans could have nominated, because nominating him robs the Republicans of their best issue against Øbamacare, since Romney was the grandfather of Øbamacare with his Massachusetts Romneycare. Øbama Øsama himself has said this.
    ***
    But now I’m not so sure Romney is such a bad candidate on this issue after all. Because, he has NOT flatly said, he will repeal Øbamacare and simply restore the situation to the status quo ante, the way it was in 2007, before Øbama was elected.
    ***
    Rather, Romney has said, he will repeal AND REPLACE Øbamacare. In other words, give America something that actually makes sense.
    ***
    So, do not despair, Wee One. Be true to your feelings. Times will change, and your opporession WILL come to an end. You WILL have a national health care program.
    ***
    And, it may even be in the end, that you will look back on it and be THANKFUL that Romney was elected, and reformed Øbamacare, turning that chickenbleep program of his into chicken salad.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    Many people here know my real name, and none of your Nazi buds give theirs either….including you.

    I’d be an absolute fool to give you info like that knowing that a below the belt keyboard hero like you would never do anything but back shoot your enemy.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    From your attitude, your upbringing was difficult. What happened to your parents? They lose their minds?

  • Sand Spur

    LD I would never act behind your back. I want to look into your eyes when I shake your hand. It is only a matter of time before I find you. You have left more info floating around than you realize.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sand Spur

    I can tell you are in pain LD. I get no joy from bringing up painful memories. BUT….. there is a matter that needs to be settled between us.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    Well then, if you be the bravest one here, then give me your name and location first. Surly, you’re not less brave than myself.

  • Altosackbuteer

    CORRECT. The first one IS obscene; the second one is not.
    ***
    Evidently you’re too damned dumb to understand the difference between offensive and obscene. Something can be offensive — which IS permitted here — without being obscene, which is NOT permitted here.
    ***
    Moo-slum Moo-slum Moo-slum.

  • Altosackbuteer

    Du kennst gar nichts, Trottel.

  • Sand Spur

    Right and you go fornicate yourself you bigoted hypocrite.

  • Sand Spur

    This has been a nice discussion but I have other commitments waiting. I will find you Lonesome Loser, that is a promise. Do not look behind, because someone is gaining on you.

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    Behind? And I thought you were serious about facing me.

    Well, I knew that asking you to be the brave one would result in your leaving.

    What else?

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 1LonesomeDove1

    It appears that you have either a gay admirer, or knight in shining armor champion in the person of “sand fart” above.

    Ya gonna give him a nice pink scarf for him to wear as your colors on his lance, m’lady?

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sand Spur

    You have been flagged fat-boy.

  • Altosackbuteer

    Being offensive is NOT Flaggable. So go right ahead; knock yourself out, you FOOL.

  • Sand Spur

    Do not worry fat-boy I will Flag you when I feel like it. You know, deep in your heart, that you have no friends. No one can stand you. I will bet that both your wives detest you. I see y how much you post and it is obvious that you are a lonely, friendless, loveless, loser. Good Night fat-boy.

  • Sand Spur

    Lets match IQs, since you think you are so intelligent. Mine was tested at 160 in high school. I tested better in college. What is yours smart boy?

  • jerryomega

    Notice how no one plays the race card as much as MSNBC.
    When Obama fall on his butt….play the race card

  • Sand Spur

    I guess you do sniff your own farts. You did not deny it. You also did not deny hanging around elementary schools with candy. So you are a perverted bigot.

  • jerryomega

    Romney won because Romney is not John McCain. Back then he didn’t have a record. Now he has and he’s got some one to challenge him on it and that person is standing right standing right next to him. I don’t even think his talking teleprompter will help.

  • Sand Spur

    YOU are STANW….right?

  • Altosackbuteer

    If you noticed how much I post, it therefore must be that you’re just as big a loser as I am.

  • Big Goober

    Obama ,(Axelrod), always telegraphs his moves. Watch for an aggressive disinformation campaign against Romney at the next debate. That explains their narrative. The liar in chief is going to throw down major B.S. Chicago style.

  • Gary Carroll

    If you research this remember—the transfer of technology to a communist country was against the law in the 1950’s, 1960’s, 1970’s and 1980’s.

    Clinton facilitated and changed the commerce laws allowing that to happen.
    That caused the most racial change in America’s economy when we lost our manufacturing base. America’s econmy is huge so It took a decade for the effects which we are feeling today.
    Some believed it would be ok for manufacturing to move because it only represented 20% of our economy.
    But remember that 20% was the backbone of our economy.
    A country must make something to create value. And you must create value to generate wealth.
    Once you start to consume more then you make—then the economy and eventually society will degrade.