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Inhofe unveils “the greatest hoax” of climate control

After years in the wilderness decrying the scientific argument for climate control (formerly known as climate control), Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) is finding that the tide is turning to his point of view–that climate control is little more than a hoax, and one perpetrated on the world for many years.
 
In an interview HUMAN EVENTS at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, the ranking Republican on the Senate Environment Committee unveiled his new book, “The Greatest Hoax,” about the lack of truth in the case for climate control.


 
“Yes, we’re finding that the tide is turning,” Inhofe told us, citing “Climate Gate–the 2010 revelation that much of the evidence produced by scientists to support climate change on earth had been confabulated and was untrue.  The Oklahoman said that since the revelation, people who formerly assumed climate change existed have come over to his point of view.
 
“And much of the international community feels the way [I] do,” said Inhofe. In December, the Canadian environment minister announced his country was withdrawing from the Kyoto Treaty on climate control.  Other countries are expected to follow suit.

For Inhofe, the publication of “The Greatest Hoax” puts into print what he has argued against the tide for a long time.  Like the author, the book will inarguably be controversial.

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  • globalcrap

    The greatest hoax telling lies about climate control is Goofy Gore,and the O Bogus regime,and the Messiah who thinks he can control the climate.It’s all about control,and your tax dollars keeping the O Bogus frauds working,trying to put fear in the youth of America.

  • http://twitter.com/fsamuels Forrest Samuels

    Ah, who cares about science when it doesn’t fit your political narrative. You won’t be around for the devastation to Earth so live it up! (Just don’t have kids.)

  • A_Proud_Infidel

     *BONG*,..*CUCKOO*,…*BONG*,..*CUCKOO*,…*BONG*,…*CUCKOO*,…………………….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OYFBO4CYUQ62FOSAHPQEPVA64Q Soul Patch

    Living in Florida. We were told years ago by global warming alarmist that we would be twenty feet underwater by now. Strange, but the water rises to the same seasonal high mark on my sea wall that it has for the last twenty years.

  • A_Proud_Infidel

    According to the alarmist enviro-kooks I listened to in the late 80s and early 90s, the Earth  was supposed to have been unable to support life by the year 2000 due to deforestation, climate change, acid rain, the hole in the ozone layer,…….  And here we are today, we don’t hear about acid rain, the ozone hole is gone, and now we’re hearing that the alarm over melting glaciers was fiction and hype as well.  Deforestation? The Continental USA now has more forested acreage than it did in the 1930s!  So if you still don’t like logging, just wipe your butt with a live Spotted Owl! Save the Polar Bears? HEY, I think that EVERY treehugging liberal moonbat should be allowed to hug and kiss a live wild Polar Bear in person, and those that don’t want to go that far North should be given the opportunity to go hug a wild Grizzly Bear in the American West.  Aaah, the melting Polar Ice Caps? A few years ago, astronomers were observing the Polar Ice Caps on Mars melt as well, and there isn’t a single SUV on that planet, let alone a coal-fired power plant!

  • A_Proud_Infidel

    Do you have anything other than DU/KoS/Huffy-Poo Kool-Aid to spew all over the place?  You must be very proud of your idiocy, you display it so prominently!

  • txdave22

    but, you cannot deny the fact, proud

    you do not admit and we know why:  HYPOCRISY

    your name is pub

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QDD5Z6XFFUMBORZL4F7CXPC75A marshall gill

     Crazy house has internet access now? For every “whoremonger” you mention who is a Republican there are how many democrats? Or should I say how many dozen democrats?

  • A_Proud_Infidel

     FACT: You’re an idiot, and you prove it every time you rant.

    “Facts are stubborn things.” – Ronald Reagan

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Sounds like a Kos informant to me.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    I am going to turn my thermostat up a couple of degrees tonight just in honor of your good post.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    You must have spent a small fortune on aluminum foil.

  • TechDel

    So your pathetic attempt at suporting fascists and socialists who want to rule the world on the back of global warming BS is to talk about the the misbehavior of a few Republicans. Really!! Is this the best you’ve got? Go back to mommy’s basement and renew your Media Matters lessons, you troll.

    Spay & neuter liberals.

  • TechDel

    You really enjoy telling these stories, don’t you? Tells us a lot about you: 1. you are obsessed with sexual stories, true or not 2. You don’t have a clue about the subject of the article 3. You need to see your probation officer and your shrink before you hurt some little boy again. 4. With people as clueless as you supporting the other side, we will never get stuck with a cap & tax program.

    Spay & neuter clueless liberals

  • TechDel

    Hey, Tex, Nurse Ratchet is calling. I think she said something about electroshock or lobotomy or something. Whoooeeee. Right up your alley. Better hurry before before the Chief takes your spot.

  • mariandavid

    One of these days someone will manage to point out to the under-educated who pontify endlessly about matters they do not comprehend (Senator Imhofe for one) that no scientist has ever suggested that “global warming” is underway. Because:
    - those who have managed to pass grade 10 in any decent school know that the earth has been warming since about 1850
    - that there is overwhelming evidence that in some areas there is warming – and yes the Himalaya glaciers are melting at a phenomenal rate
    BUT
    - that the debate is over whether or not human activity has or has not accelerated the process.

    So instead they/we/(80% of the educated and 95% outside the US) call it ‘climatic change’ and spend out tiem working out why and how much – while Imhofe and his brood  invent excuses not to do anything.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QGJB6XKBWEVILASOVXE5FP65SA Dave D

    Yep, that proves it.  Spot on!

  • John Williams

    NO–let’s just spend them into the dark ages to try to stop something that doesn’t exist!  That’s much more fun!  Let’s send $100 billion to the UN to make sure it doesn’t happen!  You ready to bet your kids’ futures on that, Forrest?  Go ahead–but don’t ask mine to subsidize your imagination.

  • John Williams

    From the party that claimed to be worried about the black community and then worked overtime destroying the black family.  From the party that claimed to be for “equal rights” and then proceeds to disenfranchise half of America with its policies.  From the party that claims George Bush spent us into oblivion and has managed to run up a deficit 10X greater than his worst year with nary a raised eyebrow.  From the party that claims to value freedom and liberty that does it’s best to dehumanize and destroy the individual at every turn.  Yeah–let’s talk about hypocrisy–idiot.

  • Rayindyinoh

    Extremely well-written post. You captured my exact sentiments. A tip of the hat to you, sir.

  • Rayindyinoh

    Just what does your post and re-post have to do with a thread on the climate hoax? Do you get paid to troll? Personally, I am much more concerned about the incompetent or deliberately obfuscate actions of our attorney general than going tit- for-tat over the peccadilloes of our politcos, of there are equal portions on either side of the aisle.

  • Dustoff

    Are you kidding me. Hansen is the biggest cheer leader in the whole GW hoax.

    I really can’t believe you? This nut is the leader of your GW team and you have no idea who he is.
    Then I have to say you know little about GW.

  • jimjamer

     Yeah, no ozone hole, and we still can’t use freon!

  • Dustoff

    And you are right that there is never ‘settled science
    ***********************************

    O-brother.  At this point I have to call you an out-right lair.

    The GW nuts/leaders have been saying for years the science IS settled on GW, now you come back and say it isn’t.

    I bet your one of these guys who think the UN would never lie. 
    Their all so smart  over there.

  • mariandavid

    Well – unlike you I am educated on the subject – with utter lack of modesty highly so. But unlike you I am able to seperate fact from fiction and truth from political attitude. Oh and I noted three errors in just the two sentences you wrote. I happily debate this issue with those who do so with intelligence – never with those such as you who substitute insult for reason.

  • mariandavid

    They are not. You have, I fear, a tendency to treat this issue as if it was a question of religion – one is RIGHT or WRONG. That is not how science works – and good scientists question all the time.

    Now for your quotes:

    #1 refers to peaks NOT glaciers and considered opinion is that this means that there is either more snow falling and/or the winds are less strong

    neither of which can be used to substantiate or decry temperature change

    #2 is correct and forgive me if I bore you. For the last 1 million years the earth has been passing thought a change cycle – but that is not the simple warmer or colder. On balance the earth is getting drastically warmer (remember that in recent geological time New York, London and Paris were both buried under glaciers), but within that large cycle there are smaller (shorter) ones of getting colder and within those even shorter ones of getting warmer. So IF the Thames freezes that would be a 150 year cycle (of colder?) as opposed to a 75 year cycle in which glaciers have retreated (warmer?). And on and on and on.

    And just to cheer you up a far greater risk is of a sudden change in water temperature by ice-dam failure or ice-sheet melt (we think that the horrors of the 14th Century may have been caused by an ice-dam failure in Canada diverting the North Atlantic Drift) – or of the dust cloud spewed up by a major volcano!

  • Dustoff

    Funny isn’t it. For years these same jerks have told us over and over it’s SETTLED.

  • jimjamer

     Didn’t you read the news yesterday? The Himalayan glaciers are not melting, to people’s amazement.

    You know, I really can’t tell from your post whether you believe or disbelieve? You say the argument is over … who won?

  • Dustoff

    Funny how they never talk about peer review when it came to the results on the so called Hockey stick measurements.

  • JayC777

    “A new report published Thursday, Feb. 9, in the science journal Nature offers the first comprehensive study of the world’s glaciers and ice caps, and one of its conclusions has shocked scientists. Using GRACE, a pair of orbiting satellites racing around the planet at an altitude of 300 miles, it comes to the eye-popping conclusion that the Himalayas have barely melted at all in the past 10 years.”

    Jay
    Looks like another so-called scientist who posted here is not up with the times.

  • Dustoff

    They are not. You have, I fear, a tendency to treat this issue as if it
    was a question of religion – one is RIGHT or WRONG. That is not how
    science works – and good scientists question all the time.
    ***************************************

    No dave. What I fear. Guys like you fake your studies for money, control of others (UN) fame, lifetime job.

    The fact that you guys faked/hid your e-mail shows the total corruption in your group.

    If I faked my medical reports like you guys do. I would be in jail and out of a job forever.

  • jimjamer

    OK, now I get it. You think climate change is the most devastating event that could harm mankind. So is it that we will be too warm or too cold? Or do you believe that it is neither hot nor cold, just turbulent or something? And you seem to belittle the IPCC — but then who do you think has the correct science? And if you have not decided whether it is “man-made or an act of nature”, why are you so insistent that we enforce practical and painless solutions, which, by the way, would not have to be enforced if they were practical and painless?

    I really cannot get a handle on your thought processes

  • Dustoff

    Well – unlike you I am educated on the subject – with utter lack of modesty highly
    ************************************

    Ahhhh, yes and we told our newest American Prez is SO smart too. 

    Pardon me while I laugh this one off.

    Like yourself I too have a education out of California/San Diego.

  • Dustoff

    Were they not saying it would gone in what 10 years or less.

    One lie after another.

  • Dustoff

    Got to keep that lie going Jay. It’s the only way these guys can keep their gov paid jobs.   (-:

    Or should I say (LIFE-TIME) jobs

  • mariandavid

    Its not that the glaciers are not melting (as usual the press mucked it up – and they were retreating, which is another matter entirely) but that the snow cover has not reduced. That is a function of precipitaion.

    No one has lost or won – scientists do not think that way. But the UN report has trashed – but the wide consensus now is that climate change is taking place.

    But I repeat the jury is out on whether that is largely or even at all due to human activity. Come back in a decade and the evidence might be clearer. What is worrying though is the degree of variation in the weather – some previously claimed that this would be evidence.

  • mariandavid

    But my sole claim is that I was educated in the issue under dabate. I would never claim to expertise is particle physics or Finnish literatre or Keynsian economics. The trouble is that far too many people (including scientists as well as Al Gore) are pontifying on subjects on which they have no knowledge

  • Guest

    Global cooling was the big story in the 70s,and the same arguements were being used then that man was the cause and by the early 80s it was flipped around.

  • Dustoff

    Its not that the glaciers are not melting (as usual the press mucked it
    up – and they were retreating, which is another matter entirely) but
    that the snow cover has not reduced. That is a function of precipitaion.
    *************************************

    More spin from Dave.
    The guy who claims he knows nothing about Dr. Hanson. One of the biggest GW pushers of all time.

    Dave I think one of two things is going on with you

    (1)  Your not a scientist

    (2)   Your a fool or both.

    I notice you seem to show up at HE every-time we talk about GW.
    Trying to protect your gov paid job?

  • brad460

    I wonder when there comes along a period of global cooling if they will mandate that we drive SUVs, and have a maximum allowable MPG for the purpose of putting out more GHG to warm the planent?  Hmmmm.?

  • AgTrotter

    Nice convenient lie.

    The so-called scientists did indeed call it global warming. Of course, that was shortly after they called it global cooling. When the foundation for global warming became untenable, they began calling it climate change.

    Of course, you really need to check your talking points update. They’re now calling it climate DISRUPTION”. What might be next, oh educated one?

  • AgTrotter

    “My expertise incidentally is as a geomorphologist not a climatologist”

    LMAO!

    So, you’re basically a landscaper. Could you swing by to help with my spring planting?

  • 1tomritter1

    As a longtime teacher of physics and chemistry, I assured anyone that would listen that Global Warming/Climate Change is a fraud and a hoax.

  • jimjamer

     More confused now. Are you replying to me of mariandavid? I for one agree with you, but think I am using my time most productively answering the AGW disciples — gives me practice.

  • skyking7

    Inhofe is a contemptible liar, trying to foist the idea that a conspiracy of thousands of scientists and decades of peer reviewed papers could be the foundation of a “hoax”, treating Americans as idiots. This snake-oil salesman consistently and deliberately misrepresents science and is the worst Senator to come along since Joe McCarthy.

    The sooner this unethical Wingnut gets voted out of office the better.

  • skyking7

    Not on scientific grounds, you don’t.

  • skyking7

    “Shocked?” According to whom? The scientists themselves.

    First, I would suggest doing a little research and he what the scientists actually say about their conclusions.

    Second, I would examine what you use as sources for information.

    Third, I would ask yourself how is that climate scientists published a peer-reviewed paper in a prestigious scientific journal, Nature, that went completely against Inhofe’s conspiracy claims? Are these scientists rebels, exposing the “great climate science hoax?” Or are they just publishing the results of their studies, with better data, like normal scientists?

    Go look and any number of well known climate science denier sites, like “Watts Up With That?” or ClimateDepot. Do you find it strange that these sites are so nicey-nicey about scientists who come up with studies that “fit” a political agenda? If not, you should.

  • Dustoff

    Well, so far. You guys have been proven LIARS. 

  • Dustoff

    2: Unlike you I am not a fool and I am a scientist

    Wow and how many times have we heard this one.

  • Dustoff

    Yet Dr Hanson would never lie………… Right

  • http://profiles.google.com/danrshaw Dan Shaw

    AgTrotter: A geomorphologist is a person who studies how the earth’s surfaces were formed by rivers, mountains, oceans, air, or ice and how these elements will change the landforms in the future. A geomorphologist gathers organic materials from the earth like sediments from mountains, water from streams or rivers, and pollen from flowers. They are trying to figure out if any these materials from the earth had an effect on way that some lands are shaped.

    That doesn’t sound like a landscaper job to me at all. Why do you denigrate the profession?

  • Canadianlady

    That’s what the scientists were warning the world about in the 70′s.  They sounded the alarm bell that the world was headed for another ice age.  This is why it baffles the imagination that the man-made global warming alarmists can believe this baloney. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roscoe-Bonnifitucci/100000459519027 Roscoe Bonnifitucci

    Message to Libtard Community:  Put down your BONGS and pick up a History Book.  

    Then repeat out loud 10 times per hour for a week:  Global Warming and Man-Made Climate Change is a Marxist Hoax.  

    The truth, while befuddled at times by Socialist crap, will eventually sink in.  Marx was a murdering failure who is responsible for 100 million deaths.  Go with the truth.

  • LadyBlaze

    So much ado about nothing.  The so called scientists say that CO2  better known as Carbon Dioxide is bad but in reality it is one of the most necessary gases we need for life.  If the world was so concerened about the CO2 gases there is only one solution to combat this dangerous gas.  Plant a tree, vegtables or flowers.  That’s it!

    All plant life need CO2 which through the process of photosynthesis it creates the oxygen we breath.  In it’s essence, NO CO2….NO Oxygen…No Life.  Hasn’t anyone in this country learned this fact in a biology class?

  • scf2012

    “Third, I would ask yourself how is that climate scientists published a peer-reviewed paper in a prestigious scientific journal,…”

    Oh My! Anyone who wants to talk about “peer review” as the most revered source of information, is in denial. “Peer Review” only serves to further each others claims and ability to gain and maintain grant money, publishing, and tenure if they are teaching. It long ago lost its lustre and validity. In fact, “Watts Up With That” says:
    “Generally, reviewers do not “audit” the results—that is, spend a lot of effort untangling the details of the data and or methodologies to see if they are appropriate, or to try to reproduce the results for themselves.” So, my dear, the so called “peer reviewers” did not replicate or duplicate the original “research” that climate change/global warming is based on. Peer review means nothing. And when I was in 7th to 12th grades, we were taught that science is based in theory, not fact. Have a nice life.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FWZJRQHK35YFNZSLK3MGHOWVXE Alan

    Lets see; Gore screams global warming but spends more on gas & electricity on his estate then I get in a month. Flies all over the world in a private jet. Has millions invested in Carbon Credits which will make him a billionaire if GW is accepted. Puklosi wates taxpayers dollars running an Air Force jet around to places she has no legal right to take it. Congress told Carol Shelby no to switching us over to propane on cars in 1970. California has determined that cars must conform to Fed. smog control so the same propane that is a clean air fuel cannot be used on cars 1976 & newer. The warmest day in the last 100 years was in the 1930′s, the warmest day in the last 20 yrs was about 1996. In the 60′s & early 70. we were told that the Earth was going into another Ice Age, that temps in the Arctic were dropping. In the 70′s we were told that we were running out of oil, yet we keep finding more! In the 70′s we were also told that oil came from Dinosaurs when in reality it comes more from plants & vegetation. We were also told that we were running out of Redwoods while at the same time the state of California was plowing through the Redwoods to make 4 lane freeways for all the tourists that wanted to travel north in the Redwoods but couldn’t drive on crooked 2 lane highways. Obama stops oil drilling & exploration in the Gulf by U.S. oil companies for “enviromental” reasons & then gives Brazil 2 billion tax dollars to explore & drill in the Gulf. Obama spends 2 million dollars on Canadian made buses for his campaign trail & then flies them everywhere instead of driving them.

    Yep! Sounds like I should really be worried about “Man Made Global Warming”! It is a scientific fact that the oceans currents control Earths temperatures just as the sun & volcanos do also. Not to mention that we are forced to burn ethanol in our gasoline because the Government had decided to subsidize it & yet it doesn’t burn clean! California put MTBE in our fuel in the 90′s claiming it would produce let air polution, what they neglected to say was that it would poison our water. So much for California protecting the enviroment! Canada was also sucked in to the MTBE, problem is with the writings of the trade treaty the accepted with the U.S. they can’t remove it while the treaty stays in effect. Not to mention all the jobs that have left the U.S. thanks to the Democrats over regulation & their partners the Unions greed & gone to China which doen’t care about polution & so they are producing more pollutants then they ever did in the U.S.. Coal burning plants not burning clean plus all the mercury being put into the water & air over there. Global Warming is just another way for the powerful to gain more power over us citizens, I mean when Obama & his wife spend 14 million tax dollars on vacations in his first 3 years in office & claims to want to cut the deficit, why wouldn’t I believe him or any of his other corrupt scumbag friends.

  • aeroguy48

    Follow the money its that simple.

  • platapapin

     And hey, the atmosphere of Mars, such as it is, is mostly CO2.

  • freedomringsforall

    What are you bitching about?
    I thought liberals were fighting tooth and nail for conservatives to be more like them!
    Then when you find a few that are just like you you start bitching up a storm.
    Man this definitely goes to show you just can’t please a liberal!!

  • Adolyphaeon247

     The lobbyist of 3M pushed for the ban on freon because the patent on it was going to expire! They where one of the first to introduce a Brand New chemical at 3x the cost of plain old freon that was ozone friendly don’t you know? Same deal with the glorious Aspirin too, of which I only use because wow! It still works!! Good luck in finding plain Aspirin in Walmart or even your local family supermarket~

  • Hominid

    Way to set him straight, Borg.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TLHDERGLTI4SLKPAYJJTF2CP6E yahoo-TLHDERGLTI4SLKPAYJJTF2CP6E

    Run Forrest, Run the sky is falling and you might get hurt!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TLHDERGLTI4SLKPAYJJTF2CP6E yahoo-TLHDERGLTI4SLKPAYJJTF2CP6E

    Just read your bible it has been around for centuries and has said then that there is no global warming. Oh here it is since I know you won’t go read it.

    Genesis 8:
     22 “As long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.” 

    and the earth will endure until he comes back.  Oh don’t get me wrong I believe in being a good steward but not at the expense of the poor and all this hullabaloo just puts more taxes on the poor.

    and this I trust a whole lot more than any scientist or politician.  Oh and there are many scriptures that were written looooong before science even knew how things worked and guess what they were proven correct by the scientific method.     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TLHDERGLTI4SLKPAYJJTF2CP6E yahoo-TLHDERGLTI4SLKPAYJJTF2CP6E

    Just read your bible it has been around for centuries and has said then that there is no global warming. Oh here it is since I know you won’t go read it.

    Genesis 8:
     22 “As long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.” 

    and the earth will endure until he comes back.  Oh don’t get me wrong I believe in being a good steward but not at the expense of the poor and all this hullabaloo just puts more taxes on the poor.

    and this I trust a whole lot more than any scientist or politician.  Oh and there are many scriptures that were written looooong before science even knew how things worked and guess what they were proven correct by the scientific method.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BI5UAJ4QOCZISQV277ZCJHJL7M Wake up America!!

    Roscoe , actually the number is much higher. Stalin committed genocide to his own people at 55 MILLION( excluding 20 MILLION war dead in WWII), ditto Mao at 75 MIILION, no accurate data available yet from the N.Korea’s starving civil population! I’d say the summary executions and POW’s in Russian Siberian camps easily puts the number OVER 150 MIILION innocent people!

  • 1tomritter1

    What “scientific” grounds?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001302351639 Kathleen Lee

    The reason, the only reason for this debate is carbon credits…money. The progressives would do anything to get more power, more money. It’s called weather…get use to it, cause it’s not going anywhere.  Global warming fools…

  • theo980

    Yup, but now it looks like ol’ Joe McCarthy was on the right track.  So, since Mr. Inhofe is my Senator and that seems to piss you off, I think I’ll volunteer as one of his campaign workers!

  • theo980

    You mean 80% -95% of the gullible.  You’re taking the word of someone else, like algore, that all this is happening.  If you were capable of actually doing the scientific research you wouldn’t be posting on this site.  That would be far beneath a scientist with a multi-million dollar government grant!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FTH55B3KRNMFMP5JDPZ4EUTBBM Jon

    1tomshitter1…an ignoramus such as you, will never be convinced until the Thames River once again freezes over, right before your beady narrow-set eyes.  You’re so caught up with being a leftist, that you have abandoned any scientific reasoning.  That’s the hallmark of socialists, all theory and absent of facts.

  • skyking7

    You’re just repeating debunked canards of the Climate Science Denial Movement, just what they want you to do. It’s sad that you fall for it.

  • skyking7

    Frauds and charlatans like Inhofe are able to line up lots of useful idiots.

  • skyking7

    Fortunately for mankind, your religious beliefs are completely irrelevant to science and reality.

  • Huapakechi

     you’re assuming they can read

  • Huapakechi

     Show me the basic research data.  “The dog ate my homework” is no longer a sufficient excuse.

  • skyking7

    The science that overwhelmingly demonstrates anthropogenic global warming is real, the very science that Inhofe wants you to believe is a massive hoax because he can’t refute it.

    Don’t fall for his political conspiracy theories.

  • 1tomritter1

     You did not answer the question.

  • 1tomritter1

     You did not answer the question.

  • skyking7

    Scf2012, you illustrated my points for me. What better example of gullible brainwashing then you just wrote.

    Is it any wonder why Inhofe, Anthony Watts, Marc Morano et all can recruit so many of you useful idiots.

    Get a grip, man, and learn the reality of the scientific method – from other than politicians, retired TV weathermen, and advisors to Rush Limbaugh. Unless, of ourselves, you believe you should go to an auto mechanic to have a tooth pulled.

  • skyking7

    No, global warming was not a scientific story, only a media story. Look it up.

  • skyking7

    Science overwhelmingly demonstrates AGW is real. There is no scientific argument over that, Theo.

  • Huapakechi

    Shhhhh!  (Can’t be letting the citizens catch on to the hoax, they might start stringing up them who are running the fraud.

    “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed and hence clamorous to be led to safety by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
    H.L.Mencken

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick-Johnson/100000190455903 Rick Johnson

    So guess who really gets hurt with all this climate change hoax. You’re right it is us the citizens. We are in the last stages of the elimination of R-22 the most commonly used AC refrigerant in the world. This year alone the price to the consumer has DOUBLED. This is after we saw the price of home units themselves more than double over a three year period.   We are in the period where everyone has to either change over to a new refrigerant or go without. Many in the US do not have a free $6,000 to $10,000 laying around, especially in this economy. THOUSANDS of Americans are having to put up with the bitter heat because they cannot afford to replaced broken AC systems. Or are forced into purchasing single room units and living in only one room in their house. All of this due to the FALSE  claims of climate change.

  • txdave22

    No spaying liberals unless also conservatives:  EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW:  14th amendment of US CONSTITUTION which is alive and well.

    Of course US CONSTITUTION is not dead, it is underpinning of our freedoms.Every time a woman gets an abortion, and there are millions a year, it depends on this:Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court on the issue ofabortion. Decided simultaneously with companion case Doe v. Bolton, the Court ruled that a right to privacy under thedue process clause in the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution extends to a woman’s decision to have an abortion This week when 9th Circuit Appeals court said gay taxpayers must be treated equally, it was the Equal Protection clause, alive and well and protecting Americans that advanced civil rights and gay rights further than ever before.REJOICE IN OUR LIVING CONSTITUTION!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/THIJICVWKV4GG7ZWPGPSJF6AJY Ben

    I’d just like to encourage all conservatives and libertarians who read and post on Human Events to also read/make comments on Huffington Post.

    In years past I would occasionally click on a link somewhere which led to an article on HuffPo. Then I’d read the posts at the end of the article and shake my head in sadness that people could be so silly and shallow. However, since it was necessary (I think) to register through some of the “social media” (such as Facebook) I never bothered to do so.

    But, when AOL bought Huffington Post (for a reported $300 million), after a couple of months it was possible to enter HuffPo by possessing an AOL email address. I quickly signed up for one of those and have been going to town ever since.

    We need more sane people over there to counter the incessant liberal misinformation, disinformation, spin, and outright falsehoods.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/THIJICVWKV4GG7ZWPGPSJF6AJY Ben

    Bush did not sign the Community Reinvestment Act which mandated subprime mortgages to unqualified borrowers, and thus did not create the financial crisis. Obama has institutionalized annual deficits of around $1.5 trillion, having added as much debt in three years as Obama did in eight.

    Get your facts straight before spewing such nonsense as you did.

  • Dustoff

    Really. so they lied in their e-mails? 

  • Dustoff

    No dave. I like others are sick of  liars like you and others in your field. It’s not about science. It’s about control and life time jobs.  Guys like you make statements on (GW) or planet warming. Then when that theory fails you pop-up with something new to cover your tracks.

    I hope that in the near future fools like you are discredited and fired from your positions. You like others in your so called field have cost the world trillions in dollars and the in human lives. Can you say (Rachel Carson)

    Them are the real facts dave.   Not some theory that guys like you keep throwing out like a base ball pitcher, hoping for a strike out!

  • thebuckneverstops

    The one word that encompasses all of life “ECONOMICS” Simply follow the money … Just one key example …  Prior to the global warming hoax, grants, high salaries & research funds that were available to the professional climatologist were few and far between … Now with climate change the $$$$ flow to these people … The bigger the problem the more $$$$ they get … the longer they can keep the hoax on the front page the more $$$$ …. They are all dipping into the gravy pot of fear  … They now have an incentive to be creative with the fact and figures, to the detriment of us all (except for their own personal enrichment and importance) … Besides, does anyone really believe anything said by our government, government agency or research group  whose is total dependent on government funds  for their existence …

  • skyking7

    Are you that uneducated that you would have to depend on me, Huapakechi, when the science is available to everyone?

    Sorry, your straw man is old and tired.

  • DrZarkov99

     ??? You obviously didn’t read beyond the fact that Alan doesn’t like Al Gore. Nothing in his post addresses claimed causes of climate change, but criticizes the extreme measures taken to supposedly somehow change what’s happening. As for “debunked canards”, how do you explain the recent report from the same UK climate research center that that first announced human caused global warming that temperatures haven’t risen since 1997, and that the claim of melting glaciers has also proved to be in error? The oceans that were supposed to rise by 1-2 meters by the end of this century are now only supposed to rise by 5 centimeters (<2 inches), according to their models, and that small a measure could be accounted for as noise in the calculations. Bad science is bad science, regardless of who is guilty, and I admire the UK center for their honesty in admitting things aren't going as they first predicted.

  • DrZarkov99

     The “useful idiots” are clowns like you, who dutifully spout whatever nonsense the Progressive establishment tells you to say, so you won’t be kicked out of the club.

  • DrZarkov99

    And your new secular religion is? Since you Progressives refuse to acknowledge what science tells us about the fact that the climate has changed cyclically for eons sounds more like a faith-based view to me, and one that’s in error. Go burn an aborted fetus on the holy altar of Gaia and leave the rest of us alone.

  • Gary Almstrom

    Unfortuneately, ALL people are just that: HUMAN. Whether they be Democrats OR Republican. Example: look at former US President Bill Clinton. Not only did he have sexual relations outside of his marriage, he stood in front of cameras and the entire US population that he “did not have sexual relations with that woman”. He again stated that same thing to the highest court in the land. So, don’t try to tell people that the Republicans are bad unless you also openly admit that the Democrats and all others are just as bad.

  • skyking7

    You’re facts are wrong, DrKarkov. You chose to quote denialists instead of the actual science.

    Duh.

  • skyking7

    Too bad I trust science no matter where it leads. You have to depend on climate science deniers to tell you what to believe.

  • DrZarkov99

     How about not using the clever dodge that your peer-reviewed papers were all written before the GRACE data was available? At one time, it was accepted in peer-reviewed journals that the space between planets was filled with “aether”, until later scientific study proved the space was vacuum. That’s what science is about: accepting a degree of uncertainty, and the fact that new data can prove previous conclusions wrong. That’s what makes you such a phony, pretending to be educated, when you’re nothing but a parrot, repeating ideological doctrine and claiming it to be “science”.

  • skyking7

    I think it’s hysterical, DrZarkov99′ that you fall for the claim that there were 7 billion people to feed eons ago who magically didn’t depend on agriculture nor were concerned with drought, floods, or ice ages.

    Boy, are you a gullible one, Zarkov.

  • DrZarkov99

     O brainless one: are you entirely illiterate? The evidence I quoted was from the UK climate research center -the same people who first shouted about global warming. Are they now classed as “climate deniers” because they’re scientifically honest enough to admit their predictions have been proven wrong by newly available data?

  • skyking7

    Been there, done that.

    See Naomi Oreskes documentation in her book, “Merchants of Doubt.”

  • skyking7

    The science is available to all of us, Tom. Why don’t you do your homework? No one needs me to explain what has been available to you all along.

    Then, if you still don’t like it, ou’re welcome to refute it.

    Any questions, Tom?

  • skyking7

    Appeal to “Climategate”, Dustoff? You actually fell for that?

  • skyking7

    Too bad for you scientists didn’t call it “global cooling,” isn’t it, AgTrotter?

  • txdave22

    Wake up, Clinton left WH in 2001, and he was not 

    a WHOREMONGER, as sitting senator vitter has admitted 
    to being……….this is the present, cast the mote/senator from
    your eye and the senate floor

    Only last year after ethics investigation, former senator ensign
    (REPUBLICAN OF NV) got out of town before criminal charge

    Seems his g.f and hubby wanted 8 million from ensign, I guess 
    they settled for 96K (a gift from ensign’s parents)

    pubs read like a soap opera, nasty, immoral, and BREAK 
    THE COMMANDMENTS like they were playing golf

  • DrZarkov99

     I can tell this is a useless exchange, since your attitude is “My mind is made up, don’t confuse me with facts”. If the analysis of the GRACE satellite data by the very people who coined the phrase “human-caused global warming” that says their predictions were exaggerated at best can’t convince you, you have a mind truly closed to science, for all of your claims otherwise.

  • DrZarkov99

     Actually, you reinforce my argument. If humans weren’t around millions of years ago, what caused the extreme shifts in climate then? Temperatures on Mars have climbed by exactly the same measure as those of Earth over the last sixty years. How many SUV-driving humans are on Mars now?

  • AgTrotter

    I love how you leftist nutcases are so selective in how you define “scientists”. If they agree with your crackpot theories, they are respected “scientists”. If they don’t, you don’t even acknowledge them as “scientists”.

    It is FACT that some “scientists” were decrying “global cooling as early as 1959. Your refusal to acknowledge that states quite a bit about your ideology-fueled beliefs.

  • skyking7

    No you didn’t. That’s the point. Temperatures have risen consistently.

    Poor kid.

  • mariandavid

    No one ‘got caught’ – that is an urban myth. And it was the politicians who invented the phrase ‘global warming’, long after scientists had said climate change. So you have it reversed.

  • skyking7

    Zarkov,

    You stuck your foot in your mouth again. You don’t even know what the GRACE conclusions are!

    I’ve been taking on denialists for years. You’re no different, Zarkov.

  • mariandavid

    It is an alternative theory – though of course Russian scientists have had a rocky reputation since the says of Stalin – such as bending genetic science to fit Communist theology!

    But they are wrong about the accuracy of the data. Strangely we are better informed of RELATIVE temperatures from 10,000 years ago than we are of 1,000 in many areas – a primary source being tree-rings which can be ‘bent’ when massive wood, coal and coke consumption started. For example we know the temperatures in East Africa when the Negro civilisation ruled there – but not many years later as most mature trees were used for heating!

  • mariandavid

    My father was a minister of the cloth and taught me that treating the Old Testament as literal truth was not something a Christian should rely on. But in this case science agrees with the Word. Yes – until about 3 billion years the earth will continue to have seasons and day and night. At some point the growing size of the sun will cause the rotation of the earth to cease and then day and night will end.

    Note that Genesis says nothing about changes in climate. Presumably the temple-priests who wrote Genesis about 750 BC had not noticed that over the previous 500 years that the Sinai has become drier and the coastal areas wetter (we think I hastily add).

  • skyking7

    Are you so dumb as to conclude that human-added CO2 can have no effect because humans weren’t around in the past? Are you that nuts, Zarkov? You’re going to tell us that all of the science that has studied ALL of the factors that contribute to warming and cooling is not real?

    Of course you will. That’s what deniers do.

    The fact is that all of those different factors cannot, and do not, explain the warming seen now.But human-added CO2 does in every scientific study done. And you will go along without a care in the world how climate change can impact agriculture, civilization, and wars over resources.

    As you illustrate or us, Zarkov, one can never underestimate the intelligence of you climate science deniers.

  • mariandavid

    Al Gore!!!! He is considered a cheap publicist by scientists. And of course I take the word of others as I am not qualified to carry out contemporary climate research (I lack an advanced degree in mathamatics). But the vast consensus is that climate change is underway.

    And I do find myself very much in the minority on this issue on this site. That does not mean that I am wrong – it does mean that the Conservative movement in the US (but NOT elsewhere) has decided that attacking the idea of climate change is a convenient political argument. Which of course means nothing in terms of the truth or otherwise of the issue.

    Take for example “Climate Gate”. It is a matter of religious faith here that this proved that climate change was an invention – happily ignoring all reports and commissions to the contrary, and blindly ignoring the utter failure of Climate Gate 2′s attempt to ruin reputations. Having said that I do agree that the UN report was a pile of ——.

  • mariandavid

    And the trouble is that you are scared of facts that contradict your faith. I can understand that – it makes perfect sense in a religion. But in the real world all that matters is the truth – and whether that truth is convenient or not should be irrelevent to science.

    Who knows it may well be proven (adequately) that present-day climate change trends are short lived and can happily be ignored. As a scientist I would happily accept that – because for me this issue is not one of politics or faith but logic. You seem to have problems understanding that.

    And what is this nonsense about Rachel Carson? You do I hope realise that her propagandising about the over-use of agricultural chemicals saved many lives and, perhaps even more important, saved innumerable children from being born with crippling diseases and mutations.

  • AgTrotter

    “until the Thames River once again freezes over”

    But, I thought the hysterical bed-wetters (see: you) have been telling us that the Thames was going to boil from the heat. Wow, I’m really getting confused now.

  • RepOne

    Hoiw come the wicked climate change supporters have to have factual scientific evidence and out illustriust politician and just quoter vague, non fact filled anecdotes about how climate change is a haox.  Some guys in Canada, that place where they have socialialized medicine, say it’s a hoax so it’s gott be  true.  It’s really a shame this Republican forum can do nothing but throw quotable lines to the Republican base but can do nothing to edcuate the vast populace that will decided the next election.  People don’t care about contraception or the Catholic Church.  It’s the economy, STupid.  GEt wise and try some of those things called facts to make your point. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A7DKFOPQSW64BBILREPBZMU73Y Patriot

    Had any good cigars lately???

  • AgTrotter

    “No, global warming was not a scientific story, only a media story. Look it up.”

    Thanks for agreeing with us. And, I don’t need to “look it up”; I’ll go on your word – “global warming was not a scientific story, only a media story”.

    I guess we should ask Gizzi to lock this thread down.

  • AgTrotter

    “Clinton left WH in 2001, and he was not a WHOREMONGER”

    LMAO!!!

    I’m sure that all of Billy J’s mistresses will thank you for not calling them whores.

  • AgTrotter

    So, a science historian is pertinent because? Geesh, talk about selective “science”.

  • AgTrotter

    Good grief, please take your faux self-righteousness elsewhere. I was being sarcastic you dullard.

  • AgTrotter

    Ah, you’re Canadian. That explains quite a bit.

  • mariandavid

    A Hansen involved in climate change I have heard of – the original question implied someone connected with NASA of whom I did not.

    Yes Canada – a highly democratic federation efficiently run by a Conservative government – are you envious?

  • AgTrotter

    The fact that an alleged person of science doesn’t know that James Hansen is connected with NASA speaks volumes about your credibility.

  • mariandavid

    As you say – I am Canadian – my regrets if I did not recognise the significance of his association with a particular American agency. My understanding was that he was associated with the University of Iowa -but since he is not considered a leading contemporary reserach scientist in the field I payed little attention.

    I suppose he is well known for his somewhat extravagent views on climate change and on his ill-judged dive into the economics of cap and trade – but not so much for his recent work on the isse.

  • Huapakechi

    Noooo.  I’d get more cogent answers from my cats.  I am referring to the high priests of the global warming hoax, algore, hansen (of NASA) the faculty of the cru at East Anglia, and Mr. “hockey stick” Mann.

  • Guest

    I was just pointing out how the press does indeed exploit issues and non issues alike so as to increase ratings and circulation as well as to push an agenda,often at the expense of science,logic and reason.

  • JayC777

    “First, I would suggest doing a little research and he what the scientists actually say about their conclusions.”Irrelevant.  It doesn’t matter what scientists say, the have nothing but opinion and no scientific response.  The facts speak for themselves.  Pictures don’t lie.

    “Third, I would ask yourself how is that climate scientists published a peer-reviewed paper in a prestigious scientific journal, Nature, that went completely against Inhofe’s conspiracy claims?”

    Scientific evidence has confirmed that the planet hasn’t warmed in the last 15 years.  Until we stop seeing emails proving these scientists have no credibility, they will be taken for the hacks that they are.  Only a mindless buffoon would take your position after all that has been exposed lately.

    Jay
    Now, get a job, then get a life.

  • Altosackbuteer

    They are Removing his postings.

  • Altosackbuteer

    “Cubic amount” = cubic volume.

    HOW does the density of ice change, and WHY?  I don’t believe it does at all.  Does it get even denser?  In that case, the amount of frozen water is actually GREATER.

    But this is just foolish science.  The density of ice does not change, as least not under Standard Temperature and Pressure (STP).  So if the density doesn’t change, and total cubic volume is also the same, then it is irrelevant where it is, or whether certain formerly ice-covered stretches are now bare.

  • mariandavid

    Check out the peculier (very peculier) behaviour of H2O as it converts – not sure it that is the right word! – in the lower levels of a glacier. Some have said it has the qualities of a ‘fluid plastic’.

    But you are right – my wording was sloppy to say the least. Lookiug back I should have said ’accrued mass’. instead, accrued in the sense that what matters was the change in mass from year to year as opposed to season to season.

    But staggering (as best I remember) back to the original question: The amount of snow/ice/whatever in the Himalya is principally a function of the strength and duration of and the precipitation remaining in, the Summer Monsoon, after it has passed over India. The temperature of the mountains is irrelevent in this case as for much of the normal melt-season it is below freezing at altitude (unlike for example the Alps or the Rockies). Hence the behaviour of Himalayan glaciers may difer from those elsewhere – which accounts for the imbecilic claim of the head of the UN panel that they would vanish. Of course the fact that he was setting up a company to help people adjust to this ‘certainty’ may have been a factor.

  • bobfrommosinee

    The simple fact is that it is cyclical, The earth has warmed, or we would still be in a ice age, the earth has cooled, the little ice age 1550, to the coming great ice age due to the Milankovitch Cycle.

    Our Planet has been much warmer even since man walked the face of the earth, and much colder.

    So, guess what, It doesn’t matter what we do, We do not have the ability to affect the climate at all, The Suns has more energy than all of the combined power capability of all the earths nations, by magnitudes of order. It is the sun and the orbital cycles that determine the warming and cooling of the planet, not our puny efforts.

  • rebelyell4

    Yup, there’s global warming, wait, don’t send the nasty gram. There is also global cooling.

  • rebelyell4

    Yes I agree, there is global heating and cooling. Life has it’s ups and downs. I even believe the poles have shifted. As we drift around the milky way, I believe firmly that they will shift again. It’s called a cycle. Life has it’s cycles.

    Know what, let’s admit it we don’t control the weather and everything that goes up in smoke is only changing state, not disappearing. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. One more thing. The dino was not the only thing that turned to oil. Neither were prehistoric plants. Things are still turning into oil, can you believe it?

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself, well….there’s God and any of the super-vulcanoes, and…

    A kindly reminder to all greenies everywhere, a windmill used to grind grain is a much more effective way to operate than one that generates electricity. One that pumps water is more efficient. The single most efficient route is always the most direct one. An electric car or truck is the more expensive way to solve the problem and less efficient. Electricity has to be generated, coal, oil, natural gas and even those dangerous nueclar plants are what make electricity. A horse is more efficient. In reality, anything we do is less efficient and more energy will have to be produced than now. A single horsepower used to move a man, in front of a cart, it can move more. Right now, how many horsepowers do we use to move a man? How many gallons of crude does it take?

    If your solution is electricity, then how much will it take to produce the electricity to move the electric car and the man? Wanna bet enegy use goes up?

  • Duncan Jones

    Wow, a lot has happened in the mere 6000 years since–according to you wingnuts–”God” created the Earth in 6 days.  

  • Duncan Jones

    I pity your former students.  I assume you taught in a “faith-based” institution . . . ?  LOL.

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  • Tamglesca

    The Chinese are doing a lot to combat global warming – far more than the USA.  It signed the global warming treaty, it is producing many solar energy plants that are much larger than anything else on earth. The Chinese are committed to significant reductions in carbon intensity and aim to lower carbon intensity by 45% in 2020.

    Unfortunately there are people who want only to make quick money and ignore the effects. They will not look seriously at anything that stands in their way of a quick buck.

    The Chinese realize that the glaciers are melting which feed their rivers and will even make some of them dry up. So they have put in major water conservation measures.

    China with four times the population of the USA is at the moment the world’s greatest emitter of greenhouse gases, but only for a short term yet. USA of course does not have any national carbon reduction goals.

    It is really quite ridiculous how the US Embassy for propaganda purposes against the Chinese government was measuring air quality and the Yanks don’t give a toss about their own air quality.

    By the end 2011 the chinese had already reached 27.5% of energy production from wind power, solar power, nuclear power and other cleaner sources. This is now accelerating.

    The Chinese economy is growing by leaps and bounds and they are serious about their belief in global warming and are doing something about it.

  • Tamglesca

    Yes just follow the money and you end up with big oil.

  • Tamglesca

    If people used less oil there would be no need for America to keep on trying to steal control over the oil of other people. The dodgy dollar is kept afloat by the addiction to oil. When the addiction to oil ends so will the dodgy dollar.

    The petro-dollar is America’s golden calf. Go go Iran keep the yanks out!

  • semper_fi_do_or_die

     You can add up all the anthropogenic emissions since mankind started burning wood to cook his kills and it still wouldn’t match the output of one major volcanic eruption.

  • 1tomritter1

     You assume wrong.  What other assumptions do you make?

  • nianlong77

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  • solidspine

     

    Unfortunately democrats lie and scam as a rule, look at
    obama.

     

    Global warming is a fraud they concocted to generate sympathy,
    fear and most importantly votes and money.

     

    The truth, that there is no global warming is starting to
    back fire on them.

     

    They will simply fabricate different and more lies, this has
    been there growing MO for about 45 years.

  • Dr. Leroy Shitslinger

    NO. It goes back to big blow-hard, the windmill in the Oval Office.

  • Dr. Leroy Shitslinger

    The newest, latest change has been discovered. It’s LIGHT CHANGE. They say it is staying darker, longer. Wow.
    But, that won’t affect you because you are living in the dark anyway.

  • Michael T Lyster

    Or, maybe because all the heavy ozone fell to the bottom? Or, somehow it’s because of Northern Hemisphere raaaaccciiissm!! against the Southern Hemisphere. Or, because of evil pixies.

  • Michael T Lyster

    Nonsense. They oppose participation in Global Warming treaties. They pour hydrocarbons into the atmosphere at massive rates. And your 27.5% “Alternative” figure should be approximately 25.5% NUCLEAR, and 2% other. ANy idiot knows this. Except, apparently, you.

    But: I think it’s great idea. Let’s have another HUNDRED nuclear plants here in the US. After all, it’s good enough for the French, and the Chinese, and the Germans—and anything that’s deemed valuable by Old Europe is automatically embraced by scientifically illiterate granolas like you, so: what’s the problem? Why the resistance from the gray ponytail set against nuclear power? Oh, that’s right because “It’s NUCLEAR, man, and you can’t hug a child with nuclear arms, and that’s like a weapon or something man, and like it’s just power to make The Man comfortable in his mansion while the proletariat suffers”—-or some ludicrous nonsense of that sort.

    Your talking points from Media Matters are thin, and not believable by the people on Human Events that are MUCH, much better educated and more discerning than you presume. Go get an education: and, while you’re at it, a LIFE, before you throw your counterfactual rubbish onscreen around here.

  • Michael T Lyster

    And Big Oil is owned by….? That’s right. SHAREholders: including unions, 401(k)s, mutual funds, little old retired people, and even—gasp!–some RICH people!
    The Big Oil argument is just stupid. Sorry, but there’s no other term for it. Did you  skip Economics or Finance 101 in college for Latin American Marxist Theory, or  Advanced Macrame instead?  Have you not heard of freely traded market shares? And, while we’re on the subject: any socialist  communes doing any deep offshore drilling, lately? No: because it takes MONEY, and planning to do it. And, until you start filling your gas tank with bamboo sprouts, or unicorn sprinkles, (Don’t claim electric in your Volt: that comes from burning COAL, so you don’t get a pass on that one), I suggest you get used to BIG companies with LOTS of money doing BIG projects to supply LOTS of fuel. Or, go invent something, get rich, and you can quit complaining. Works for me…

  • skyking7

    You won’t get very far with that piece of utter nonsense, semper_fi.

    Get a grip on reality, man.

  • skyking7

    What are smoking, Leroy? AGW is real and Inhofe is lying to you.

    Open you eyes and get a grip.

  • skyking7

    Michael,

    You illustrate the arrogance of ignorance for everyone here. You must enjoy making a fool of yourself.

    That you can’t distinguish between trend and variations around the trend is just how Inhofe uses you as a useful idiot.

    That you think 7 billion people lived eons ago and did not have to depend on agriculture, did not have to worry about floods and droughts, encroaching deserts, or even ice ages, makes you the blogs comedien of the day!

    Open your eyes, bozo, Inhofe is using you, hoping that you will keep on choosing to remain ignorant of science and reality.

  • skyking7

    Maybe I should have been more clear: you have no facts, Michael. And, sorry sonny, I’m a Republican watching the Republican Party turning into what Joe McCarthy wanted it to because of the self-delusions of people like you.

  • skyking7

    You’re another useful idiot, Jay, willfully ignorant and wrong on all accounts. If you actually paid attention to the science you would have been embarrassed to have what you wrote attached to your name.

    But then you could care less about science and reality.

  • skyking7

    You see, you illustrate my points for me, Huapakehi. You fell hook, line, and sinker for what climate science deniers want you to believe, all categorically false.

    Don’t be a useful idiot.

  • skyking7

    Global cooling, Ace. Pay attention.

  • Dr. Leroy Shitslinger

    Yeah, and Barack Oskidmark is a real American.
    BWAAAHAAAHAAA

  • skyking7

    Yes, Obama is a real American.

    Except to paranoid wingnut conspiracy theorists, of course.

  • cfranz

     You very much remind me of an old Monty Python skit.  They say no, you say yes.  The difference being that they actually site authorities and you just nay say.

     If they are wrong, prove it, otherwise quit wasting electricity, time, and bandwidth.

  • cfranz

    Don’t bother Tom.  Skyking7 is a Troll.

    To paraphrase Shakespeare:

    “Skyking7″ is but a walking shadow, a poor player
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
    And then is heard no more: it is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.

  • cfranz

     Sorry “ace”.  He quoted you correctly.  You may or may not have meant it the other way, but you were quoted correctly.

    Pay attention.

  • cfranz

     Do you mean just like the pro Climate Change websites and journals?  Not sure what you are trying to prove.  Especially since the Global Climate Change group has admitted to have cherry picked their data.

    So first you’re doing the Monty Python ‘Argument’ sketch… can we do the ‘Cheese’ sketch next?  Please?  Pretty please?

  • cfranz

     Don’t bother.  Having reviewed more then a dozen of Skyking7′s missives.  None of them contain a single actual fact.  One likely conclusion is this is a very lonely person looking for someone to talk to.  Sort of the online version of the guy who stands in the elevator and says ‘I have new socks’.  Sad, but beyond that, unremarkable.

  • skyking7

    Sorry, cfranz, that dodge never works. The burden of proof rests on those denying the science that demonstrates overwhelmingly that AGW is real to refute it.

    No one has nor can. And you climate science deniers know it.

    Sorry, kid.

  • Michael T Lyster

    Actually, my family got here from Canada just after 1900, so I’ve no ‘white man’s guilt’ on this one, whatsoever. 
    While we’re on the subject, however: we DID acquire the good part of North America the old fashioned way: we came in force, killed everything we could, ate or mined the rest, and made a country better and more successful than any in human history.  All so second rate d-bags like you could whine and moan, as if YOUR nation, and YOUR ancestors did anything different. Want to get North America back for your Amerindian pals? Fine: come take it from us. Until then: scurry back into your hole. Bug.

  • Michael T Lyster

    “One of my relatives knows a guy, who knows a guy…”—my, nobody can counter YOUR objective data, can they?

    I PRAY that you don’t rely on math skills in your career, and I hope for your parents’ sake that you’re not the gifted kid in the family. Your adoration of the Chinese is nonsense. Aren’t THEY the ones who built the Three Rivers Dam project, displacing tens of thousands, wiping out numerous archaeologic sites, and fouling the environment downstream irrevocably?  Yep: that would be the Chinese.
    As for the ‘biggest solar project in the world”—maybe so, but it doesn’t disprove the MINISCULE impact  of solar power on their net power usage.
    Tamglesca, you’re not a very bright individual. Even spouting Media Matters and OWS talking points can’t save you. 

    And, before I forget: YES, we ARE the biggest energy users. And we will continue to be, despite your collectivist collaborators now embedded in our federal government. Let’s see you trumpet the spectacular efforts of your own country at—well, at ANYthing.  
    Oh, and just for another thumb in your socialist eye: I’m healthy, and happy and solvent, and have too many vehicles, and a plane, and my wife and kids are beautiful. That has GOT to annoy a socialist troll like you. One hopes.

  • Michael T Lyster

    Come on over, and force us to do so.

  • Michael T Lyster

    Gosh, I hope so.  
    Nothing so beautiful as a sunset, over the desert; the waning shafts of sunlight piercing the veil of smoke, over the ruins of Tehran…makes me all dewy-eyed, just thinking about it. 
    And the smell of burning piles of Iranian troops: I forgot that part. God, I love a barbecue!

  • Michael T Lyster

    No, actually many of us LOVE the heat. 
    Your fellow travelers in Pakistan and the Netherlands and San Francisco and parts of the Middle East: well, they’ll be ****ed. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OYV2CLNWUBSWORCQB5PGWIA22I Dennis

    In 1971 while studying in a JC, I heard the UN say that “the US of America had 7% of the worlds population and uses 50% of the world’s resources”. That is a false statement that can be made true by adding one word. Place the word “used” before the word “resources” and the statement becomes correct. There are many earth resources that are available for use. In that same time period the UN also said that they wanted America to develop a technology to mine the oceans of its resources and give that technology to the third world. To solve their poverty.

    The real issues here are controlled finances, inadequate intellectual drive and knowledge of truth, that is coincident with third world ignorance. The driving purpose here is for the first world rich to steal undeveloped third world resources. Wake up third world you are being lied to by global, banker-gangster elitists. The UN is their tool to lie to you, make you feudalistic slaves and put the whole world into Europe of the dark ages. Dishonest currency causes worldwide poverty, not low taxation.