Foreign Affairs

Who wants war with Iran?

Appearing alongside CIA Director David Petraeus before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence last week, James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, said of Iran:
   
“We don’t believe they’ve actually made the decision to go ahead with a nuclear weapon.”
   
Before the hearing, as James Fallows of The Atlantic reports, Clapper released his “Worldwide Threat Assessment.” It read, “We do not know … if Iran will eventually decide to build nuclear weapons.”
   
Clapper thus reaffirmed the assessment of 16 U.S. intelligence agencies in 2007, reportedly repeated in 2011, that the U.S. does not believe that Iran has decided to become a nuclear weapons state.
   
In December, when Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said that if Iran went all out, it might be able to build a nuclear weapon in a year, Pentagon spokesman George Little hastily clarified his comments:
   
“The secretary was clear that we have no indication that the Iranians have made a decision to develop a nuclear weapon.”
   
On Jan. 8, Panetta himself told CBS:
   
“(Is Iran) trying to develop a nuclear weapon? No. But we know that they’re trying to develop a nuclear capability. And that’s what concerns us. And our redline to Iran is: Do not develop a nuclear weapon.”
   
On Super Bowl Sunday, President Barack Obama told NBC’s Matt Lauer that he hopes to solve the Iranian problem “diplomatically.”
   
From the above, we may conclude that the administration does not believe that Iran has crossed any redline on the nuclear issue — and President Obama does not want war with Iran.
   
Who, then, does want war? Ayatollah Ali Khamenei? Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?
   
From their actions, it would appear not. If Iran wanted war with the United States, any terror attack inside this country or on U.S. forces in Iraq or Afghanistan could bring that about in an afternoon.
   
Expulsion of the International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors from the Natanz enrichment facility, covering up the IAEA cameras, breaking the seals on the low-enriched uranium stockpiled there, or removing the LEU would be a fire bell for the Pentagon.
   
But the IAEA inspectors and LEU are still there.
   
When the alleged plot by a used-car salesman in Texas to hire Mexican cartel criminals to blow up a D.C. restaurant and kill the Saudi ambassador was revealed, Iran denied it emphatically and demanded to interview the alleged mastermind.
   
Moreover, Tehran has yet to retaliate for the assassinations of five of its nuclear scientists and four terror attacks by Jundallah in Sistan-Baluchistan and PJAK, a Kurdish terrorist organization operating out of Iraqi Kurdistan. Iran has alleged Western and Israeli involvement in these attacks.
   
Now that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has denied any U.S. involvement, Mossad is the prime suspect behind the killing of the nuclear scientists. And U.S. writer Mark Perry, in Foreign Policy, alleges that Mossad agents posed as CIA and used U.S. dollars in London to recruit Jundallah.
   
If this is true, this would be a false flag operation to provoke Iran into lashing out at America. Apparently, Iran did not take the bait.
   
Why have the Iranians not followed through on their threat to close the Strait of Hormuz and begun to dial it back?
   
War with the United States would be a disaster. Though the Tehran regime might survive — as Saddam Hussein’s survived Desert Storm — Iran’s navy, most of its armor, anti-aircraft and anti-ship defenses, and its strategic missile force would be destroyed, as would much of the country’s infrastructure. Iran would be set back years.
   
Who, then, wants war with Iran?
   
All those who would like to see exactly that happen to Iran.
   
And who are they? The Netanyahu government and its echo chamber in U.S. politics and media, the neoconservatives, members of Congress, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum.
   
And as the Obama administration is the major force in U.S. politics opposed to war with Iran, its defeat in November would increase, to near certitude, the probability of a U.S. war with Iran in 2013.
   
Yet if the Pentagon and U.S. intelligence community are correct — Iran does not have a bomb and has not decided to build a bomb — why should we go to war with Iran?
   
Answer: Iran represents “an existential threat” to Israel.
   
But Israel has 200 atomic bombs and three ways to deliver them, while Iran has never built, tested or weaponized a nuclear device. Who is the existential threat to whom here?
   
And though a U.S. war on Iran would be calamitous for Iran, it would be no cakewalk for Americans, who could become terrorist targets for years in the Gulf, Afghanistan, Baghdad’s Green Zone, Lebanon and even here in the USA.
   
Year 2012 is thus shaping up as a war-or-peace election, with Republicans the war party and Democrats the peace-and-diplomacy party.
   
And as the months pass between now and November, this will become clear to the nation.

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  • letstalkaboutArabs

    Andy, please help me to pull up my panties after I poop.  Andy, please hold my pee pee when I tinkle. Andy, please chew my food for me. Andy, please…………..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

    Bush, Cheney and the others who perpetrated these two illegal wars need to stand trial for high crimes and misdemeanours. Until their is a full accounting and they are held accountable, the misadventures of the last ten years will continue to rot what’s left of the republic.

  • StanW

    Are you going to try Congress for the authorization for war, Felix. Or is this just a way for you to masterbate to your Bush Hatred???

  • ALTILLA

    The assassination effort is being coordinated by that NAZI, that is in prison, ANDY, with his fancy prison pants.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

    FYI: I’m not an Obama supporter. I used to be a republican but am now an independent conservative.

    With regard to your question, I don’t recall it. But why should anyone with a brain talk to imbeciles, chimps and Texans?

  • StanW

    Piss off, you Liberal hack. Anyone who lies as much as you do has no business in a debate with adults!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

    Stan, the wars WERE illegal. They were passed on fabricated evidence. THAT is criminal.

    You’re NOT a conservative, you’re a stupid fascist, who thinks we should follow every clown who waves the flag, no matter who dishonest his intentions. You salivate with greater reliability at anyone who, (no matter how dishonestly), waves the flag and says, “Mother, apple pie or the American way” than Pavlov’s dog.

    You’re the American version of the Islamo-fascist, mistaking any national inconvenience as a threat to our country’s existence. You would be right at home in Saudi Arabia or any other totalitarian regime.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

    You’re from Texas, Stan, America’s own little Saudi Arabia. You’re hardly in a position to argue about being deluded.

  • Euskaldun

    If you check the article you may get a clue I didn’t write it.  To complain, contact the authors of the report listed at the bottom of my post.  Cheeesch!

  • Euskaldun

    I was talking about myself.  I have been a nutcase in believing in the Zionists.

  • Euskaldun

    You are truly an illiterate to write Karl Marx as Carl Marx.

  • Euskaldun

    Was it communists?  And who started the communist party?

  • Euskaldun

    She probably voted for Barney Frank over and over.  likely a Southie also.

  • Euskaldun

    One can support Technology and not support Israel, it is not either or and a simpleton’s test.

    Would he give the same test to Nazi Germany.  They were a high-tech nation.  Does that mean the Nazis were right?

    Screwed up logic you are passing out.

  • Euskaldun

    Check the posting of the DNA study where it has been scientifically proven that Arabs, Jews, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese are genetically the same people.

  • Euskaldun

    bloodaxe–where you bin white boy?

  • Euskaldun

    Thanks for the good news.  Let’s stay out of it.

  • Frank_Mann

     You say Adolf I say Adolph miss TyposЯUs.  You a School Marm or what?

  • Andy osnard

    I bet he’s one of those guys that served in the navy, wears one of those Viet Vet caps with all the crap hanging on it, got those half-moon shape caps on the heels of his boots, saunters along in front of the white trash beer joints making sparks fly, thinks he’s cool.

  • Andy osnard

    Sounds like deep south New York City to me.  Maybe New Jersey.

  • Andy osnard

    Just a little conversation starter:

    “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God” (Romans 2:28, 29). “Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof” (Matthew 21:43). “But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had
    not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy” (1 Peter 2:9-10). After A.D. 34 the Jewish nation were no longer God’s people as they had rejected the Lord Jesus Christ. As a consequence the Lord rejected Israel as His nation.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NQHEAYZCMBOERHG2VZRDQ3YUSQ Felix

    Rabinic (modern) Judaism is the religion of The Talmud, the tradition of the Pharisees which Jesus explicitly rejected.

    To pretend there’s a Judaeo-Christian is intellectually dishonest and outright absurd. While we should respect people of other religions we shouldn’t pretend there are any bonds where none exists.

  • StanW

    Found those lies yet, Felix. I gave you two to start with. Guess it is easier to run away than admit you are a coward!

  • Andy osnard

    Stan:  Why don’t you go somewhere and piss up a rope.

  • StanW

    Thank you for your opinion Deputy Andy. You leave me your e-mail address and I’ll let you know the instant I give a damn what you think about anything.

    ‘k, pumpkin’?

  • ALTILLA

    To late Nazi, reading the bible will not get you into the good graces of God, you are going to hell, with or without Leroy.

  • westoast

    Why don’t you go somewhere and stop sucking on that piss rope.

  • USSLiberty

    Bloodass was reassigned to another blog by Israel’s Mossad.

  • USSLiberty

    Looks like the SS has its fan club.

    SAN DIEGO (AP) — A Marine Corps scout sniper team in Afghanistan posed for a photograph in front of a flag with a logo resembling that of the notorious Nazi SS, a military official said Thursday.

    Use of the SS symbol is not acceptable, and the Marine Corps has addressed the issue, Marine Corps Lt. Col. Stewart Upton said in a statement. However, he did not specify what action was taken.

    The complaint was filed by Hasbarats of Buchanan’s forum.

  • USSLiberty

    There are several passages in the New Testamnet which make it clear who was responsible for the death of Jesus Christ.

    In Chapter 2 of the Book of Acts, Peter is speaking to the Jews and tells them:

    36Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

    37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

    38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

    40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

    41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

    It is very clear that for the Jews to be saved that they must repent and accept Jesus Christ as their savior.

  • ALTILLA

    The last refuge of a NAZI DAT, is the bible. Hey Nazi, you can’t take it to hell, unless you need added heat. It won’t work for you. So leave this forum, NOW.

  • USSLiberty

    The supreme irony for every Jew who rejects Christ is that they wind up in HELL and shake hands with the Fuhrer who will be there to greet them.

  • letstalkaboutArabs

    How about your Arab Jihadist-Islamist friends?  Are they exempt from hell for not accepting Christ as their savior? You giving your towel head, murderous, terroristic buddies a pass?  Or are they grandfathered into heaven because they subsidize Pat and maybe even you?  Remember, follow the money.  Just ask Pat.

  • letstalkaboutArabs

    How about the towel heads?  Are they rejected by the Lord for not accepting Christ as Savior?  Think they will stay out of hell?  Are the terrorist killers of Islam exempt from retribution?  Why not admit here and now that you want us to ally ourselves with the mutants of Islam against all Western Civilization believes and against the Jews?  Man up and cut through your usual bullshit and say what you really believe without hiding behind your pseudo-religious biblical quotes from a bible you don’t  even understand.   You have more in common with the Koran than with the holy bible.

  • millionkeys

    Wow you just hit that fiberty prick so hard I will bet another tsunami is a coming! I could hear the crack of your fist hitting his supper thick skull all the way over here! OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

  • USSLiberty

    Our continuing loss of privacy:

    Steve WatsonInfowars.comFebruary 9, 2012

    A privacy advocacy group has swayed Congress to hold a hearing next week into the Department of Homeland Security’s practice of monitoring social networks such as Twitter and Facebook, as well as media reports and organizations, including The Drudge Report.

    The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) recently obtained close to 300 pages of documents, as a result of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, detailing the federal agency’s “intelligence gathering” practices on the web.

    Among the documents were guidelines from DHS instructing outside contractors to monitor the web for media reports and comments that “reflect adversely” on the agency or the federal government.

  • Euskaldun

    This is one of the most disgusting posts I have read on this site, and that is saying something. Mr. Felix is a lamebrain of the first order…

  • Euskaldun

    Fake Eusky: get lost!

  • Euskaldun

    Hope Leroy kicks you out of this site…

  • Andy osnard

    You have a good point.  If what I have posted is true, then the Muslims are in deep shit as well.  But let us think on this a minute:  What if the Muslims of that later time had no clue what Jesus said.  Are they doomed because they weren’t tuned in to latest news?

    What about at this time the Nordic People, running around in animal skins trying to keep  warm and just developing their gardens?  And over here in the US the Native Americans, although at this time this is not what they called themselves, even if all the Gospel stations were radiating out into the wilderness, they couldn’t buy the Super Heterodyne radios, with all the intermediate frequency stages at 155khz with the advanced tracking oscillators using that latest Pentagrid converter driving the the Tetrode amps with the newly designed push-pull circuitry, feeding a traveling cone speaker vibrating the air so they could get the latest news out of the Middle-East which they had not way of knowing even existed as everyone had just switched from super-regenerative AM and they hadn’t even developed their crystal sets.   Are they to spend time in hell because they were deprived of  Ohms Law or a scientific education?  Is that fair?

    The Arabs who had boogied from Israel trying to escape the latest crackdown on the circumcision laws were in the same condition as the NYT had not even set up a delivery schedule of their pitiful liberal rag, and likely would have not mentioned the Messiah if they had.  Maybe I’m expecting too much.

    So how does this if you are not on the right page you are going to hell, work out?   What about the Fifth Amendment?  Are we going to continue to kill and destroy just because some society in their infancy, or their disregard of the Gospel, are a good target for an ICBM?

    Does this keep some folks awake at night?  If not then let us release the hounds of hell of those stone age primitives we still find in the Amazon Rain Forests, and bring them to Jesus.

    Uh, maybe I am going to catch hell for this.  Well let’s bring it on.

  • Andy osnard

    I measure the importance of your postings in increments of Micro give-a-shits/4.

  • ALTILLA

    Why?  Do you want him all to yourself?  No way!

  • ALTILLA

    Don’t tell me you are jealous of the Fuhrer.  You are a pervert of the first order.  Have you given up some day having your own planet?  You should have thought of that before your sex change operation.

  • ALTILLA

    Meet me later and we will discuss what you will be sucking on.  I won’t disappoint you.