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Obama In Osawatomie

 

President Obama spoke in Osawatomie, Kansas today, speaking in the vein of the “New Nationalism” speech Teddy Roosevelt gave there a century ago.  There was a lot of the usual Obama stump content, including pleas for infrastructure spending, demands for the rich to “pay their fair share,” and the traditional shout-out to Warren Buffett’s secretary – a perennial class-warfare martyr who pays a higher tax rate (but a miniscule fraction of the tax dollars) coughed up by her boss.  She belongs on Mount Rushmore at this point.

Buried beneath the tired Obama 2012 campaign claptrap – and I wonder if even some of the President’s dwindling base of fervent supporters aren’t growing weary of hearing the exact same focus-grouped phrases tediously repeated, over and over again – were two central ideas, tied back to the “New Nationalism” theme.  First: it’s crucial for America to collectively recover its economic greatness by pitching in, paying fair shares, and working together under the direction of a benevolent government that will coach Team America to Win The Future.  Second: everyone should play by the same set of rules.

These two ideas are entirely contradictory.  The Obama presidency comes off as deranged because it’s impossible to reconcile them without going mad.

For example, if everyone is supposed to play by the same set of rules, why do we need 30+ “czars” to exercise heavily funded, largely unaccountable powers over Americans who have committed no crimes?  If we’re all going to play by the same rules now, does that mean the President’s buddies are going to return their ObamaCare waivers?

Indeed, the central concept underlying liberal and socialist thought, the immense progressive tax system, is founded on the concept of treating people “unfairly.”  Obama complained in his Osawatomie speech about sinister millionaires taking advantage of too many “loopholes” to avoid high taxes (hi, Warren Buffett’s secretary!)  However, he didn’t have much to say about the huge constellation of manifestly “unfair” rules designed to penalize activities the government disapproves of, or subsidize objectives it finds worthy. 

For that matter, Obama was noticeably silent about the need to eliminate an extremely “unfair” rule that kicks in when middle-class small business owners take too many of the deductions they are legally entitled to, many of them offered by the government to promote specific behaviors: the Alternative Minimum Tax.  The AMT was originally written to snare a tiny handful (as in several dozen) super-rich people who were legally avoiding too many tax traps.  Now it slams into vast numbers of small business owners, and penalizes them for scrupulously obeying fantastically complicated tax laws.  AMT victims most certainly are not “playing by the same rules” as everyone else.

It’s rather brazen for President Solyndra to insist that “a strong middle class can only exist in an economy where everyone plays by the same rules, from Wall Street to Main Street.”  Some very special rules were in effect for the top Obama contributors who received those huge, utterly wasted “green energy” subsidies.  In fact, plenty of long-established rules were shredded to get that money into their pockets. 

Even leaving Obama’s blatant corruption aside, the “green energy” disasters are perfect evidence of how badly flawed his world-view is, and how it’s impossible to reconcile his love for benevolent Big Government with the imperative to treat everyone equally.  Americans don’t want to buy the products Obama wants them to.  They don’t want to use the type of energy he would prefer them to settle for.  They don’t want to invest in the companies Obama thinks will engineer a sustainable future.  They don’t want to ride on his damned high-speed rail lines.  Therefore, it is indispensably necessary to treat Americans unequally, in order to compel the outcomes dictated by Obama’s ideology.

There’s no way to square that circle, and Obama doesn’t really try.  He just tarts up his endless Big Government failures with hollow rhetoric about fair play and responsible government.  (It’s hilarious to hear the biggest-spending president in history boast of signing “a trillion dollars of spending cuts into law,” without mentioning that they’re spread out over a decade, unlike all the debt he’s already piled upon us.) 

He butters up the audience with stuff like “the things that have always been our strengths match up perfectly with the needs of the moment,” a gut-buster for anyone who recalls how frequently he’s been complaining that stupid and lazy Americans, no longer capable of producing marvels like the Golden Gate Bridge, are to blame for his failures.  He says restoring the middle class demands that “everyone get their fair chance at success,” without having much to say about the employees he’s put out of work through moratoriums, much less the victims of politicized assaults like the war on Gibson Guitars.

There is simply no way to respect fairness, legal equality, and level playing fields while re-distributing wealth and using force to sculpt a command economy.  We can’t impose crushing corporate tax rates on American business, then complain about layoffs and outsourcing.  No sensible person has the slightest doubt which side Barack Obama comes down on.

 

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  • JayC777

     “It is great to be back in the state of Texas.”
    - Obama, 12/06/11, Osawatomie, Kansas

    Jay
    The gaffe master is back at it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NSQ5E326LQE5GYOMN67UQ6VO2M Bama

    Browse through the last three years – you will see the same things written over and over again. No1 from those which frequent this site actually need to read it again for 1000 times. What I would like to see it a serious analysis (not just wishful thinking) about the Obama’s 2012 reelection chances. Because everyone knows they have nothing to do with the economics, the prices at the gas pump, the unemployment etc.

  • Leroy_Whitby

    Droning crap . . . gaffe . . . droning crap . . . lift up nose . . . droning crap . . . (weird pause as Obama wishes he was on the links) . . . more droning crap.

  • ANTHONY43

    The Asshole in Chief isn’t equal to a hair on Teddy Roosevelt’s ass!

  • http://twitter.com/Doc_0 John Hayward

    It wasn’t easy to sit through the whole thing.  I’ll tell you in complete candor that Obama speeches are a LOT harder to get through when you actually have to look at him, and soak up all the Mussolini body language.

  • Martin Hale

    Hayward, you cracked me up, mate!  “Playing by the same set of rules…”  That’s comedy gold right there, John.  Here we are, a few days ahead of hearing from our illustrious Attorney General about why it is that he should be able to lie, cheat, deceive and connive, when if you or I do the same, we’re fired from our jobs, disowned by family and friends, perhaps even imprisoned.  Or when our storied VP can call a sizable segment of the American people terrorists, and yet if we call him a fool, we’re practising hate speech.  Virtually everywhere I look around me, there are rules for the rulers and rules for the rulees.

    One set of rules…that’s rich.

  • Leroy_Whitby

    He is a tragedy for the nation. His arrogance is stunning in light of the total failure of his policies and the pain he is putting the American people through.

  • Niniane

    Mr. Hayward: Do you also have to take a sedative to sit through the Obama clap? And I believe you should ask HE for combat pay.

    One note for those writing for his teleprompter: get original about Obama’s failures as you have already blamed everything earthly for Obama’s failures. How about blaming space aliens to at least make the speeches a bit more interesting?

  • Dustoff

    DAMN that teleprompter.   (-: 

  • StopSpendingNow

    I agree with The Chosen One that we should revert to the tax rates from the Clinton era, PROVIDED (1) we adopt ALL of the Clinton era rates, and (2) spending reverts to Clinton era levels.

  • Leroy_Whitby

    DAMN that son of a muslim loving harlot.

  • dennisb1

    I had only hoped the President was going to avail himself of the fine facility we have in Osawatomie, Kansas to begin treating his mental condition.

  • A_Proud_Infidel

    Dennis is correct, Osawatomie, KS is home to the State’s Mental Hospital. Perhaps he’s searching for people crazy enough to vote for him again?! B. Hussein 0bama is indeed narcissistic enough to be considered mentally ill, that’s a fact.

  • Keith1941

    She was desperate…..

    Good comment!

  • Keith1941

    Who does this Bozo think he is? 

    Well, if he were a Christian….naw….won’t go there….

  • Niniane

    Here is a goody. The NAACP is now demanding U.N. human rights investigations as so many states are requiring government issued photo IDs for voting. They claim this is discriminatory against blacks (many of them felons) and other minorities (which I assume means illegal aliens.)

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/06/naacp-taking-complaints-about-us-voter-laws-to-united-nations/#content

  • HomesickExWasillan

    I heard the sound bite on Fox News.  We are going to have to blow this one out of the water REPEATEDLY!  ”The middle class doesn’t need ‘you’re on your own’ economics.”

    Actually, that’s EXACTLY what we need.  Leave us alone, leave us on our own, and we’ll get everything fixed up, including the government’s screw-ups.  We need to say this, loud and often!

  • Dr. Leroy Shitslinger

    A very simple solution to the tax holiday problem……Just take the deduction out of the social security side of the ledger and put it on the straight income tax side.
    Same deduction, but NO loss to the SS system.

    WOW, that couldn’t have been easier! 
    But Oskidmark would VETO that in a heartbeat because then he would have to think of ways to save the lost “REVENUE”.

  • capelady

    First of all, since when does an AMERICAN political group appeal to the UN regarding an AMERICAN political issue?  

    Clearly, the reason states are requiring photo ID’s is to prevent the millions of illegals who are here ILLEGALLY from voting!  If they are concerned about the minority citizens who do not have photo ID’s… why don’t they help them obtain them?  It is not that difficult!

     Of course, since election fraud sanctioned by Eric Holder and Democrat state AG’s… election fraud committed by ACORN (who by any other name is still ACORN)… and convicted felons as well as illegal aliens (there, I said it!) voting are all part of Obama’s campaign/election strategy – I can see why they might be upset.  And let’s face it, who are they going to appeal to in the US government where they might be constrained by due process, and the Constitution… these days, you never really know.

    But it certainly displays their utter disregard for our American government and way of life.

  • Niniane

    I agree totally. It is time we stop being played like fiddles with these groups who are holier than any law which has been passed. We are the world’s major funder of the U.N. And while GWB told them to stuff it when they wanted to investigate our human rights “violations”, Obama has opened the door wide. So the NAACP must feel very confident going screaming to the U.N. to interfere in our sovereignty.

  • 1TaxGuy1

    “Obama complained in his Osawatomie speech about sinister millionaires taking advantage of too many “loopholes” to avoid high taxes . . ..”

    You guys in the media need to wake up, do a little research, and quit allowing Dumbo and the other Dems to make the loop hole straw man arguement over and over again.  There are no loopholes in the tax code, Reagan got rid of them — all the pols know it, and any politician who talks about tax loop holes today is a deliberate liar trying to anger people enough to vote for the dems.

  • WinstonGalt

    Play by the same set of rules…

    Sure, I guess that means that everyone should pay the same percentage of federal income tax on their income as I do, regardless of how much more I might make then they do, right?

    That means that if they don’t have a job that gives them health insurance coverage that they simply pay for it themselves, just like I did when my company shut down and I was starting a new gig, right?

    That means that they make sure that they don’t get greedy and buy way more house than they can afford so that they can continue to make their mortgage payments without government giveaways, right?

    That means that if you want to succeed you study in school and then work your rear end off without affirmative action programs or government set asides, right?

    Yeah, right.

  • Rocco11

    Who are the damn fools who show up to listen to this idiot?

  • AgTrotter

    Mussolini body language? Heck, his constant jerking of the arm and pointing of the finger is more reminiscent of a certain deceased leader of the Third Reich.

    But, I’m obviously a member of one of the home-grown groups on Generalissimo Napolitano’s list for even thinking that.

  • 1Mojo_Risin9

    There should never be in American history a potential president who is allowed to “flash” a tilted-head cutesy “creep smile” and be elected president again!!!  There is nothing that renders Obuckethead lower in my opinion than his reliance on platitudinous gimmicks and lying rhetoric and convinces me he’s an imposter-hoax spewing ruinous, smiling jive-gibberish — he’s beyond ludicrous!!! 

    With that said, I repeat:  Demand Occubagger-Omugabe and Holder resign immediately!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CLR2LHIU6KUIFREHAPIOYJNIYM StanO360

    It’s a given, the Animal Farm axiom of “We are all equal, it’s just that some of us are more equal than others” applies to their arrogant attitudes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CLR2LHIU6KUIFREHAPIOYJNIYM StanO360

    The nose in the air with the faraway gaze . . .  definitely Mussolini

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TIU4XR76CGJFSUG5WPZDFUGMUY HenryC

    Regan got rid of them, but that was about 30 years ago. Congress has been active.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    The 43% who approve of his performance. Make sure you know your neighbor!

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    That is right. Just cut income tax rates and leave the payroll tax alone.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    The NAACP is trying to broaden their constituency as they are a dying organization.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    In Teddy’s day, Obama would be a piker on one of his safaris 

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas … it’s all the same green out there .. in the middle .. somewhere.

  • Niniane

    I wouldn’t doubt if the ACLU and SPLC also took the route to the U.N. in the future.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Perhaps that route would take them to the new UN home in Kenya where Obie can settle in as new world leader.

  • Baroo00

    Since you can’t force the “average” to be “superior”, or the “inferior” to be “average”, the only way to rectify inequality is to make everyone “inferior”.

    There are only two ways to eliminate “class warfare” – eliminate classes or eliminate the warfare.  Eliminating classes is far easier politically.

    This is “fairness” – it’s inefficient, unproductive, pessimistic and self-defeating, but it’s “fair”, and it sometimes gets votes.

    Personally, I’ll take efficiency, productivity, optimism and success, and worry later about “fairness”.

  • SolidCitizen

    That is one of my pet peeve’s the Democrats use of “Justice” and “Fairness” . It is totally perverse in the conventional sense.   

    10 people go to dinner and order Lobster $100, Steak $50, and Chicken $25.  The Bill is $500 dollars.  Most people understand fairness and justice to mean if you ordered Chicken you’d pay $25, and if you ordered Lobster you would pay $100.  And together you’d pay the bill for the dinner.

    The Democrat idea is that one person (10%) with the highest income should buy the Dinner for everyone.!!! Everyone else since they are eating for free, they will order Lobster and the Bill will be $1000 (twice as much)… Is it was when folks where paying their own way.   This is fairness in the Democratic universe… Everyone Gets the Best, and No one Pays but the “Top 10%”.

    This is called Justice. 

  • Yossarian Brown

    Wow!  That’s really racist!

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Yes, all of us conservatives are racists. But Teddy was no racist. He was a progressive!

  • Yossarian Brown

    No, not all conservatives are racists.  Just ones who post racist comments.

  • Yossarian Brown

    Please, tell us all about it.  You seem to have much personal knowledge of such “facilities”.

  • TampaMike50

    MF President BHO and all his accompanying BS–his days are numbered and counting DOWN.  Praise God!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ARXZKD2Q736W3232CP5H5PHI64 Historyshowsus

     So-called tax
    loopholes—deductions and exclusions that reduce one’s tax liability—are mainly
    used by the middle class, not the wealthy. 
    The largest tax expenditures are the exclusions for pension
    contributions and health benefits for workers. 
    Among the largest deductions are those for mortgage interest and state
    and local taxes.  In 2005, taxpayers
    saved $62 billion in taxes due to the mortgage interest deduction, with 72
    percent of that going to those with incomes below $200,000.  The child credit saved taxpayers $46
    billion—almost all of it claimed by the middle class. Just $8 million went to
    those with incomes over $200,000.

  • lfeig

    “Waging warfare on American people”- what trash-  Only an arrogant ass would distort reality

  • dennisb1

    No knowledge of the “facility” other than Osawatomie is home to the state mental hospital.  Or what I had hoped would be the far out West wing.

  • StoutCortez

    Everyone is a racist to someone looking for racism.

  • lfeig

    like this commenter writes

  • lfeig

    Leave you alone – does that also mean leave the  big banks  alone  to destroy the economy again.

  • StoutCortez

    The pathetic aspect of Obama’s channeling of past Presidents is that compared to Obama, the disastrous Carter now looks pretty good. No doubt about it, Obama is Carter’s favorite President.

  • lfeig

    “For that matter, Obama was noticeably silent about the need to eliminate an extremely “unfair” rule that kicks in when middle-class small business owners take too many of the deductions they are legally entitled to, many of them offered by the government to promote specific behaviors: the Alternative Minimum Tax.  The AMT was originally written to snare a tiny handful (as in several dozen) super-rich people who were legally avoiding too many tax traps.  Now it slams into vast numbers of small business owners, and penalizes them for scrupulously obeying fantastically complicated tax laws.  AMT victims most certainly are not “playing by the same rules” as everyone else”YOUR BUDDY GEORGE BUSH WAS PRESIDENT FOR 8 YEARS AND NEVER ELIMINATED THE AMT.  WHY ARE YOU BITCHING NOW???

  • http://twitter.com/Doc_0 John Hayward

    Because I was also bitching then.

  • N Party

    Very misleading. Obama has a fraction of the spending of W. Bush in new policies. Of course he has to borrow because tax as a percent of GDP is too low thanks to the recession started during the Bush period and the Bush tax cuts.  You talk a lot of hate, but very little in the way of facts.

  • Pete Jones

    The day I meet someone who did not vote for Obama last time, but wants to vote for him next time, I’ll get concerned.  This guy is done for sure.

  • N Party

    No. A Democrat idea is that if a child is sick in that restaurant, he or she should have the same access to healthcare as a wealthy child.

    A Republican idea is that poor kids should be singled out at school to clean the toilets.

    This is the wealthiest nation on the planet and there is no excuse to treat children, the poor or the sick with contempt. America is better than that. Republicans aren’t.

  • N Party

    Again a snide comment absent of a single fact. When are you going to stop the hate?

  • N Party

    I suppose you would like to go back to unemployment rising at 750,000 a month, an economy shrinking at 9%, illegal war based on lies and new tax policies that have led to record borrowing. If so vote in another Republican like Bush and keep on resorting to immature insults that lack any facts. Wouldn’t like facts to get in the way of hatred for Obama would we? 

  • N Party

    Yes that what it means to Republicans.

    Funny their solution to everything is to do nothing (except when it comes to telling gays and women what they can or cannot do).

  • N Party

    A typical Republican comments section. Lots of hate, lots of insults, but very few facts.

  • N Party

    Another abusive post. Shame you have to spread the hate too. I hope you are proud.

  • N Party

    Well stated. Keeping fighting for decency in this country. Don’t let the haters get away with it.

  • N Party

    An improvement on the poll that gave Bush 23% down from 90% after 9/11

  • N Party

    There’s certainly a lot of hate among these comments. Where are the facts?

  • 1Mojo_Risin9

    His smile IS creepy, you have to admit — ROCK SOLID FACT!!!

    Demand Occubagger-Obuckethead and Holder resign immediately!!!

  • datameister

    A typical liberal comment in a republican comments section. Lots of hate, lots of insults, but very few facts.

  • datameister

    Again a snide comment absent of a single fact. When are you going to stop the hate?

  • N Party

    Do you win prizes for being nasty? I hope you read your posts again and feel very proud of yourself.

  • N Party

    That was clever

  • N Party

    Which policies have failed where Republicans have a better solution?

  • N Party

    Oh wow! You watch Fox News! What a surprise!

  • 1Mojo_Risin9

    What a load of krap, you are delusional!!!  If I’m not mistaken Obuckethead has accrued as much debt in his less than 4 years that all previous presidents combined!!!

    I gonna remind you:  Demand Occubagger-Omugabe and Holder resign immediately!!!

  • N Party

    I have not resorted to name calling. Can you say that?

    FACT: Newt Gingrich supported by 37% of Republicans wants to undo child labor laws to tell poor kids they can clean the school toilets.

    FACT: One in four American children do not have full access to healthcare. Every single Republican candidate wants to take away reform that would extend healthcare access to millions of children.

    FACT: Republicans quite obviously think their ideology is more important than the lives of children in their own country.

    Hang your heads in shame.

  • 1Mojo_Risin9

    No awards yet, but there’s still about a year left in Obonehead’s 1st and last term and I’ll be quite active voicing an intense disapproval his socialist, commie, Marxist, jive-gibberish spewing idiocy!!!  Omugabe is not the least bit presidential, he’s an imposter hoax!!!

    Demand Occubagger-Obuckethead resign immediately!!!

  • 1TaxGuy1

    Are you suggesting that Congress has enacted new loopholes?  If so, kindly identify them for me.  I am a professional tax lawyer and I would know if there were new ones.

  • 1Mojo_Risin9

    You are a chump, barely worth wasting time on!!!

    Again, I must remind:  Demand Omugabe and Holder resign immediately!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=644611716 Bronco Walser

    Don’t you fret N Party, Obama has had less than three years to destroy his approval rating. At a minimum he still has one more year of free fall left. A full four years through his presidency Bush was still over 50%. I guess if all things are equal this indicates the great divider in the White House may be headed toward the low teens to single digits.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=644611716 Bronco Walser

    Sorry if my criticism of the Obama-tron was too “racist” or “abusive” for you. Judging from your past posts, those seem to be your go to criticisms of all things conservative.

  • N Party

    Bush inherited a projected 5 trillion surplus and ran up 10 trillion debt. That is a 15 trillion turnaround in the wrong direction. We are now at around 15 trillion. So Bush 15 trillion. Obama 5 trillion. Bush raised the debt ceiling seven times. Reagan tripled the debt ceiling. You might have been told every day that Obama is a big spender. That is false. He is handcuffed by Bush tax cuts. 
     
    Bush had two unfunded wars, prescriptions drug act – more expensive than the the affordable healthcare act (which delivers a surplus) and two big tax cuts that were funded by borrowing and resulted in a lack of revenue.

    Bush inherited tax revenues at at 20.6%  They are now 14.9%

    That is largely because of the Bush tax cuts and also slower growth and higher unemployment.

    Obama has spent very little on new policies. Even the stimulus was only $300b on job projects – the rest were tax cuts, benefits and bailing out the states etc.

  • N Party

    Sorry I accidentally posted in wrong place below. I will try again.

    You are very misinformed

    Bush inherited a projected 5 trillion surplus and ran up 10 trillion debt. That is a 15 trillion turnaround in the wrong direction. We are now at around 15 trillion. So Bush 15 trillion Obama 5 trillion. Bush raised the debt ceiling seven times. Reagan tripled the debt ceiling. You might have been told every day that Obama is a big spender. That is false. He is handcuffed by Bush tax cuts. 
     
    Bush had two unfunded wars, prescriptions drug act – more expensive than the affordable healthcare act (which delivers a surplus) and two big tax cuts that were funded by borrowing and resulted in a lack of revenue.

    Bush inherited tax revenues at at 20.6%  They are now 14.9% That is largely because of the Bush tax cuts and also slower growth and higher unemployment.

    Obama has spent very little on new policies. Even the stimulus was only $300b
    on job projects – the rest were tax cuts, benefits and bailing out the states etc.

  • rmiddleton00

    The 22 Jobs Bills sitting on the Senate’s Desk, that the President is attempting to use as his ideas.

  • N Party

    Do you know the difference between a communist and a socialist? I doubt it, but name calling and abuse always comes in useful if you are unable to debate the facts.

  • dougbrockman

    You didn’t mention his gift for brazenly lying through his teeth.

  • N Party

    Unlike Bush, Obama won’t be using videos of Bin Laden as part of his reelection campaign. To use a terrorist who killed so many Americans in Republican adverts is disgraceful. Do you think that using the politics of fear and hate, to use the hatred of Fox News is something to be proud of? Obama doesn’t need to do that.

  • N Party

    You would think it was a waste of time to defend policies that treat the children of America in a way that would not be out of place in a Charles Dickens novel.

  • Yossarian Brown

    And every racist uses that excuse to pretend they’re not racist.

  • Leroy_Whitby

    Heh. Even Democrat trolls have to put in caveats now. It’s not enough to point out that every major policy of Obama has failed, from increases in medical insurance costs, to 16% real unemployment, to homelessness, to housing losses, to the teetering collapse of the world financial system. That’s not sufficient. You are forced to insist that we also persuade you of a superior solution.

    Fine. Here is a solution. Realize that we do not have to live with children in poverty while our President golfs, plans his vacations to Hawaii, and brags to us that his children will be fine even if ours are not:

    http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9880

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HOA5RVTLHUFLA6ZILVPRVU6A6E Anti Socialist

    If we taxed the pot you smoke 50%…

    …, THERE WOULD BE NO MORE DEFICIT

  • owenmagoo

    “I wonder if even some of the President’s dwindling base of fervent supporters aren’t growing weary of hearing the exact same focus-grouped phrases tediously repeated, over and over again…”

    have you seen the lefties?  this speech was a concerted effort to roll out the same old tripe, and pretend that it was better than ever.

    robert reich and michael tomasky were the two most prominent.

    I really think this was a concerted effort by the left to generate some buzz. 

    There is only so much of a buzz a president can create when he is at 41% approval. 
    The 30% numbers on his handling of the economy are the millstone. 

    The american public is forming a simple form of revulsion to his ideas.  A speech where he offers his opinion of the economy given the doubt about his economic ability prevalent in the american society is not the wisest of plans.

  • GOLFNPSYCH

    I don’t recall any Republican asking school children to clean toilets.  I do recall Newt Gingrich suggesting that it would be better for school children to work at janitorial type things as an alternative to falling in with gangs and drug pushers.  Do you really believe cleaning your classroom and emptying the baskets is worse than running drugs or gang banging?  By the way, kids at our local elementary school are asked to pick up their room EVERY day.  

  • AgTrotter

    Please explain to me how my post was abusive. Of course, as a Man-Child enabler, you no doubt love the divisiveness coming from him. 

  • AgTrotter

    What reality was distorted, Sunshine?

    Feel free to log back in as N Party to like yourself.

  • AgTrotter

    I do believe that you have probably crapped your pants while feigning your self-righteous indignation. Be a good little bed-wetter and clean yourself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.albin1 Eric Albin

    One surmises it all looks the same from his Presidential plane window.

  • MatthiasThePrompt

    Yawn.  It’s always “for the children”, “for the poor”, “for the sick”, “for the old” that liberals love so much and conservatives care nothing for.  The only problem is, as this article aptly illustrates, the liberal route invariably leads to MORE poverty and misery because of the ever-present myriad unintended consequences.  Also because it doesn’t work.  At all.  Never has.  Free-market Capitalism (not that we’ve had that in decades) works imperfectly and it’s not “fair” but it made us the most successful, innovative nation on Earth.  Guess what?  Liberalism works not at all and is even less fair.  But liberals get to feel like like they’re smart, noble, superior and ”doing the right thing”, which is really all that matters.

    After what progressive policies have done to Chicago, Detroit, California and the entire black community over the past 50 years, maybe you should take the “Republicans hate children” sanctimony and stick it where the sun don’t shine.

  • N Party

    Janitors do clean toilets.

    The school would have to sack adults to replace them with children. This is just part of a nasty campaign to attack on the poor.  You think this is a good idea? Sack a man who will lose his income and his home and employ a child instead?  School IS a child’s work. Many poor kids are already bullied because they don’t have expensive clothes and gadgets and now they should clean their schoolmates toilets as well?

    This is what Gingrich said:

    “Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have
    one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school.
    The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have
    pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.”

    This is what he said of poor kids – he brandished all poor kids criminals:

    “Really poor children, in really poor neighborhoods have no
    habits of working and have nobody around them who works so they have
    no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day, they have no habit of I do this and you give me cash unless it is illegal,”

  • datameister

    What a concept. I like it.

    but doing something like this would require voting into office people that have practical business experience that also have demonstrated common sense.

    They can win if they run. But then there’s that pesky “practical experience” and “common sense” in play that anyone with either or both generally see the crap people go through to get there, and naturally pass.

    I still hold out hope for your suggestion, though.

  • MatthiasThePrompt

    Nice try but once they get up on their “those mean conservatives are so selfish” high horse it becomes obvious that the kool-aid is in their system and no amount of fact or reason will keep them from wallowing in their righteous outrage.  They have yet another textbook example of their ideology’s failure and hypocrisy in the current era of Hope & Change but they refuse to see it.  Obama “saved us from a depression” you see, and everything would be terrific if it weren’t for those racist, intransigent, obstructionist, “tea-party terrorist” republicans.

  • Rumen Slavkov

    No. A democrat idea is that when I go to work and earn money, democrats steal my money and give ( small amount, the rest they outright steal) to the ones that never go to work, so they can vote for them to keep them in power forever, so the democrats can keep stealing my money.
    Is this simple enough for you?

  • Ellen K

    Various tyrants and demagogues throughout history have managed to win campaigns and consolidate power by using a few very powerful memnotic devices. Obama knows how to tell The Big Lie and he repeats it over and over. While  facts would demonstrate to the contrary, Obama and a flock of well paid rabble continue to make street theater duly and seriously reported by the media as fact. If Obama is reelected, it will signal that our nation is heading for much worse. Even if he loses, the impetus set in motion by a wildly Democrat Congress under the heading of stimulus will cripple us for years to come. I look at my kids and my grandson and I honestly want to cry. We are leaving them with nothing.
    Thanks Obama….for nothing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKLT5R7OSN2YIJWVGTTXV3FYD4 Tim H

    FACT: Newt Gingrich supported by 37% of Republicans wants to undo child labor laws to tell poor kids they can clean the school toilets.
    Non sequitor. You try to make it sound as if they will be forced to scrub toilets 12 hours a day. It is more like doing daily chores and contributing to the upkeep of a place they spend a good amount of their day at. Are you against children learning responsibility and contributing to their own wellbeing by performing routine chores?

    FACT: One in four American children do not have full access to healthcare. Every single Republican candidate wants to take away reform that would extend healthcare access to millions of children.
    False. Every person in America can receive emergency services regardless of ability to pay. And it seems to me that you falsely equate the desire to repeal Obama’s signature acheivement with a desire to deny children health care. To believe such evil of those you disagree with clearly displays your own irrational hatred of those that oppose how you think things ought to be.

    FACT: Republicans quite obviously think their ideology is more important than the lives of children in their own country. Even you can recognize that this is YOUR opinion. Because you believe so does not make it so.

    And if anyone should hang their head in shame it should be the parent(s) who bring children into this world before they are able to  provide even the most basic of necessaties like healthcare.

  • dianec2313

     Fact???? show anything that supports these stupid claims. Show me a statement by Newt that he wants to undo child labor laws.

    NO CHILD is denied access to healthcare. Hospitals cannot turn any patient away.

    I work with non profits–specifically to benefit children. Conservatives donate FAR more to charities for children than Liberals.

    Take your facts back to fantasyland because there’s not a fact in your entire post.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeremy.torgerson Jeremy Torgerson

    Brilliant article!

  • renegade77

    Tim H, I agree with all except that last paragraph regarding parents who bring children into this world before they are able to provide even the most basic of necessities (sp) like healthcare.  

    Not all children who receive (or are in need of) healthcare were brought into this world by irresponsible parents.  Keep in mind millions of people lost their jobs and benefits over the course of the last several years.  The loss of these benefits are through no fault of their own and yet their children are also in need of healthcare just as those who are fortunate enough to still have health insurance.  Many families are having to choose between healthcare and putting food on the table – this is not a Republican or Democrat issue, it is a people issue.

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    There was noting racist about my comment. Teddy Roosevelt was a racist who would have used Obama’s relatives as pikers on his hunting trips. Perhaps you are just a bit challenged among intellectuals.

  • inthisdimension

    Obama is the worst enemy America ever has had. Hitler & Tojo only cost us $4.1 T in 2009 dollars – and they CREATED jobs here. Obama has cost us more, destroyed jobs here, trampled on the rule of law and ignored the Constitution. He needs to be removed by the military – whose ONLY Constitutional role is the defense of the Constitution. Now. We really don’t have 13 months to waste.

  • SolidCitizen

    No its a Democrat Idea that some people have to pay for Health Insurance  and Some People don’t and they, Democrats… will be the ones who get to decide. 

    They don’t care if they degrade health care for everyone… just as long as they as get the better care in their separate comprehensive plan… for Senators and Congressmen.. . 

    They don’t care if they create shortages and waiting lists.. just as long as they get to pass out the    ”go to the front of the line passes” Obamacare waivers. 

    We have already lost our computer electronics industry to China, Japan and Korea.  Our Automobile industry to Mexico and Japan… We don’t even grow all of our own food anymore… Nationalize Healthcare.. and we will lose Bio-Tech, Pharma, Medical Devices, and all other forms of health care innovation. 15% of our economy.  

    All in the name of “saving the children”. 

    What an awesome Democrat Idea! 

  • valwayne

    What Obama was really saying in Kansas is “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”!   What Obama wants is massive corrupt overpowering Government led by him and his arrogant extreme left wing Ivy League friends telling the rest of us what he thinks is fair, and forcing hard working Americans to give most of what they work for to those who can’t or don’t want to work so hard, but who will vote for Obama!  If Obama is reelected we may well become ”The People’s Republican of the United States of America”!  That certainly appears to be his vision? 

  • Yossarian Brown

    Nooooooo, of course your comment wasn’t racist.  It’s not as if you were at all happy to imagine Obama as a piker.

    And please, you embarrass yourself when you refer to any part of our pissing match as being intellectual.  Let’s describe things honestly:
    1.  You hate Obama so much that you get all jollied at the thought of him as a coolie.
    2.  I called out the racism inherent in that particular expression of your hatred.
    3.  You tried to pretend you were being — wait for it — intellectual!  Really?  Intellectual?!  Excuse me while everyone who’s life is pointless enough to actually read this asinine comment thread falls down on his a$$ laughing.   Ha ha!

    What kind of intellectual are you that you are so “challenged” by such simple trolling?

  • Sherlocktoo

    So, all the stupid liberals want to know what the republicans will do.  Let me make this simple, the opposite of what Obama is doing.  Like taking 5 trillion of the debt in 4 years, getting unemployment down to 4.5%, where Pelosi said it was far to high.  We’ll talk about jobs created, and not jobs saved.  We’ll work at having a 1.5 trillion dollar surplus, rather than 1.5 trillion dollar deficit.  We won’t be handing out taxpayer dollars for green energy, and we will de-regulate much of the harm done to all industries.  We will not take over the automobile industry.  And we won’t hire a million government workers to do temporary work, then lay them off, and claim to have cut the government work force.  And if all we do fails, we won’t blame Obama, when were 3 years into the new administration.  I only name a few items to help get you to realize the failure of this presidency.  Now, if you will take the blinders off, you begin to see how hopeless this president is.  Do you really believe that this nation is better off than it was 3 years ago?  If you do, then you’re hopeless too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QDCGYDZDKEPEPNRW6QYR7OTBXI curt

    FACT:  The top 20% pay more than 56% of the taxes in this Country. Despicable, because  FACT:  they own more than 86% of the country’s wealth.GUESS WHAT. In the 50′s and 60′s (when we had a booming middle-class rising home-ownership and single income families with decent health-care and vacation benefits), the tax system was MORE unequal, union labor proportion was HIGHER, CEOs made LESS in relation to their employees and so on (the 1% were closer in take home to the 99%).  In essence our best economic time was when were most progressive and Liberal.Reagan and trickle-on economics has been used for more than 40 years and has led to the steady erosion of middle-class income.  WHY? Because it seems when the wealthiest people have more money they dont appear to make more jobs with it, they buy risky securities and speculate in real-estate that recently went bust, sucking middle-class jobs and savings down the drain with them.Vote OBAMA

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QDCGYDZDKEPEPNRW6QYR7OTBXI curt

    FACT:  The top 20% pay more than 56% of the taxes in this Country. Despicable, because 
     FACT:  they own more than 86% of the country’s wealth.GUESS WHAT. In the 50′s and 60′s (when we had a booming middle-class rising home-ownership and single income families with decent health-care and vacation benefits), the tax system was MORE unequal, union labor proportion was HIGHER, CEOs made LESS in relation to their employees and so on (the 1% were closer in take home to the 99%).  In essence our best economic time was when were most progressive and Liberal.Reagan and trickle-on economics has been used for more than 40 years and has led to the steady erosion of middle-class income.  WHY? Because it seems when the wealthiest people have more money they dont appear to make more jobs with it, they buy risky securities and speculate in real-estate that recently went bust, sucking middle-class jobs and savings down the drain with them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QDCGYDZDKEPEPNRW6QYR7OTBXI curt

    Sorry this one’s true.  Google it, I heard The Newt’s voice it in that exact quote

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QDCGYDZDKEPEPNRW6QYR7OTBXI curt

    simple-minded, maybe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QDCGYDZDKEPEPNRW6QYR7OTBXI curt

    NEVER in the history of the US has a single election been shown to been won by people voting twice or having non-existent people vote.  There are countless examples of people who  have been discouraged to vote by restricting rules or payments of poll taxes required.

  • greenja12

    The reason so many are w ithout healthcare is because they chose it! They made the purchase of healthcare the lowest priority and by the time they got to it there was no money left. The majority have cell phones… Thats half the healthcare cost alone… add in the tv and cable or satelite they have and there is the health care paid.  I recently retired from the military and my pay was cut in half. While figuring out my financial situation…. healthcare for me and my child was my FIRST allocation of funds.  The entire premise is flawed… They will spend enough on christmas this year to pay a years healthcare. It isnt they cant afford it… its just not a priority

  • greenja12

    The reason so many are w ithout healthcare is because they chose it! They made the purchase of healthcare the lowest priority and by the time they got to it there was no money left. The majority have cell phones… Thats half the healthcare cost alone… add in the tv and cable or satelite they have and there is the health care paid. I recently retired from the military and my pay was cut in half. While figuring out my financial situation…. healthcare for me and my child was my FIRST allocation of funds. The entire premise is flawed… They will spend enough on christmas this year to pay a years healthcare. It isnt they cant afford it… its just not a priority

  • MatthiasThePrompt

    -In reply to Curt

    Typical, a rant against Reagan’s economic policies- (which only produced about 2 & 1/2 decades of prosperity) and the hated 1%, followed by “vote Obama”. Did you not happen to notice that the “1%” is richer than ever while the misery index for poor people is the highest it’s been since the 60′s under Obama? Did you notice, as much as he rails against “fat cats”, he was elected with more corporate help than any candidate in the history of mankind and doubled down on the “too big to fail” bailouts of Bush? He’s still holding $35,000-a-plate fundraisers and planning to funnel lots more government cash to the companies of his top bundlers. How does anybody continue to believe this man’s fairy tales and still convince themselves they’re helping the poor? My God, look around!

  • Liberal Soup N Crackers

    Wash your arse and move on.

  • Yossarian Brown

    Wash my arse?  I believe that’s just what my last post did.

    You are a snob, looking down on people who you don’t share your vaunted “intellectualism”.  But worse, than that, you can’t remotely make anything like an intellectual argument.  You’re worse than a snob, you’re a failed snob.

  • jagscl

    Do you really believe Obamacare does this?  Do you believe say Warren Buffet or George Soros are going to get in the Obamacare line. Or, their children?  You live in a world of make believe.  Unfortunately, it also involves taking both my money and my freedom. I’d rather pass.

  • jagscl

    What is your fixation with toilets? 

  • stumanfuu

    I would be curious to know how old you are N Party. I ponder this because you sound like the young adults that government schools and liberal professor infested colleges are producing. For example: Ag Trotter disagrees with Obama, ergo he is a hater. We must offend no one. More poppycock. You should grab your trophy for participation in this post and pop in your self esteem building CD while sipping on your mocha skinny latte in between bites of organic tofu. Lifes hard my friend. It’s not all flowers, rainbows and fairy farts. And Obama is doing his damndest to make it worse. I’m sorry but the man is a moron. He’s in way over his head. And the last thing this country needs is a second term marxist socialist boob. That being said, do you want your kool aid topped off N?